Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?
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Probably not. But it is one that it is better to try and nip in the bud
https://news.sky.com/story/china-virus-which-kille...
The mix of cases ready being reported in multiple countries and the surge in travel about to take place around Chinese New Year next week and the growing possibility that it might be transmitted from human to human.... that makes it a cause for concern
Likely we will be ok and this will fade away in the coming weeks
But there is always a chance that it could be the next pandemic flu just starting out
Ahhh chooo
https://news.sky.com/story/china-virus-which-kille...
The mix of cases ready being reported in multiple countries and the surge in travel about to take place around Chinese New Year next week and the growing possibility that it might be transmitted from human to human.... that makes it a cause for concern
Likely we will be ok and this will fade away in the coming weeks
But there is always a chance that it could be the next pandemic flu just starting out
Ahhh chooo
Here is the latest from WHO. It doesn’t sound particularly serious for now and will, likely, fade away in the coming days. But, it is early days in the outbreak still and things could change
https://www.who.int/csr/don/17-january-2020-novel-...
Which includes this
WHO risk assessment
This was the second of three exported cases of novel coronavirus from Wuhan city, China. Since the initial report of cases in Wuhan city on 31 December 2019, and as of 12 January 2020, 41 laboratory-confirmed cases of nCoV infection, including 2 deaths in cases with underlying medical conditions have been reported to WHO. Two cases have been reported from Thailand.
The source of the outbreak is still under investigation in Wuhan. Preliminary investigations have identified environmental samples positive for nCoV in Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan City, however some laboratory-confirmed patients did not report visiting this market. To date, there is no reported infection among healthcare workers in China, Thailand or Japan. No additional cases have been reported since 3 January in China.
Additional investigations are needed to determine how the patients were infected, whether human-to-human transmission has been observed, mode(s) of transmission, the clinical spectrum of disease, and the extent of infection, including presence of subclinical cases that are undetected with current surveillance.
It is critical to review all available information to fully understand the extent of transmissibility between people and likelihood of zoonotic spillover.
https://www.who.int/csr/don/17-january-2020-novel-...
Which includes this
WHO risk assessment
This was the second of three exported cases of novel coronavirus from Wuhan city, China. Since the initial report of cases in Wuhan city on 31 December 2019, and as of 12 January 2020, 41 laboratory-confirmed cases of nCoV infection, including 2 deaths in cases with underlying medical conditions have been reported to WHO. Two cases have been reported from Thailand.
The source of the outbreak is still under investigation in Wuhan. Preliminary investigations have identified environmental samples positive for nCoV in Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan City, however some laboratory-confirmed patients did not report visiting this market. To date, there is no reported infection among healthcare workers in China, Thailand or Japan. No additional cases have been reported since 3 January in China.
Additional investigations are needed to determine how the patients were infected, whether human-to-human transmission has been observed, mode(s) of transmission, the clinical spectrum of disease, and the extent of infection, including presence of subclinical cases that are undetected with current surveillance.
It is critical to review all available information to fully understand the extent of transmissibility between people and likelihood of zoonotic spillover.
And, in the longer term, unless new antibiotics are developed and/or the world gets better at using the current ones in order to retain their effectiveness, then we might have a much reduced armoury against infections that are quite easily treated today, but that without treatment would kill plenty of people
This one is yes. I was referring to the post above by otoliths mentioning plague, which is bacterial. Other candidates are cholera, typhus, tuberculosis, leprosy and more.
If antibiotic resistance continues to develop as it has in recent years, sepsis arising from the inability to deal with infections that we currently regard as quite trivial to treat could end up killing a lot of people
If antibiotic resistance continues to develop as it has in recent years, sepsis arising from the inability to deal with infections that we currently regard as quite trivial to treat could end up killing a lot of people
It isn’t confirmed yet that this particular virus is human-human transmissible and it most likely isn’t. That is often the case with infections caught from another species.
There is always the possibility that a virus could mutate to become human-human transmissible and the more humans that are infected, the more likely that becomes.
But it isn’t common enough to be of immediate concern.
There is always the possibility that a virus could mutate to become human-human transmissible and the more humans that are infected, the more likely that becomes.
But it isn’t common enough to be of immediate concern.
This is the most interesting (to me) part of the article
“when CBG was used with small quantities of polymyxin B, an existing antibiotic that disrupts the outer membrane of gram negative bacteria, the cannabis compound wiped out the drug-resistant pathogens.“
Combinations of an anti microbial + something else that helps it work might be a relatively easy win in finding useful treatments for some infections
Here is a bit about it from a charity that you might consider bunging a few bob to
https://www.antibioticresearch.org.uk/research/ant...
“when CBG was used with small quantities of polymyxin B, an existing antibiotic that disrupts the outer membrane of gram negative bacteria, the cannabis compound wiped out the drug-resistant pathogens.“
Combinations of an anti microbial + something else that helps it work might be a relatively easy win in finding useful treatments for some infections
Here is a bit about it from a charity that you might consider bunging a few bob to
https://www.antibioticresearch.org.uk/research/ant...
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 19th January 20:17
otolith said:
That's not a new approach, though - e.g. https://gskpro.com/en-mt/products/augmentin/indica...
Indeed, absent new classes of antibiotics being discovered, previous science is being revisited. Phage therapy for instance making headlines again https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-01/uo...Meanwhile antibiotic developers are going skint: Melinta and Achaogen showing how hard it is to make antibiotics pay, even with fda approval etc http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/12...
Here is the WHO page
https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/nov...
at the time of writing this it has not been updated since 17 Jan
https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/nov...
at the time of writing this it has not been updated since 17 Jan
WHO Twitter
https://twitter.com/WHOWPRO/status/121914529835573...
witterings about 14 healthcare workers being infected
https://twitter.com/hayesluk/status/12192768346609...
Whilst it isn't going away, it isn't anything to get too excited about yet imo
https://twitter.com/WHOWPRO/status/121914529835573...
witterings about 14 healthcare workers being infected
https://twitter.com/hayesluk/status/12192768346609...
Whilst it isn't going away, it isn't anything to get too excited about yet imo
Only 9 dead at the moment but I've played enough Plague inc. to know how this goes.
Screening to begin in the UK and we're now monitoring flights.
Cases now found in the US so I presume there will be some cases making its way to Europe sooner than later but what's everyone's take on this?
https://news.sky.com/story/china-virus-is-mutating...
Screening to begin in the UK and we're now monitoring flights.
Cases now found in the US so I presume there will be some cases making its way to Europe sooner than later but what's everyone's take on this?
https://news.sky.com/story/china-virus-is-mutating...
Public #transportation such as bus, subway, ferry and long-distance bus in Wuhan will be temporarily closed since 10am Thursday. All flights and trains departed from #Wuhan will be temporarily cancelled to reduce risk of spread of the new virus, local govt says.
https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/122005288259...
https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/122005288259...
I was reminded of this news from last summer
A researcher with ties to China was recently escorted out of the National Microbiology Lab (NML) in Winnipeg amid an RCMP investigation into what's being described as a possible "policy breach."
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband Keding Cheng and an unknown number of her students from China were removed from Canada's only level-4 lab on July 5, CBC News has learned.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-re...
A researcher with ties to China was recently escorted out of the National Microbiology Lab (NML) in Winnipeg amid an RCMP investigation into what's being described as a possible "policy breach."
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband Keding Cheng and an unknown number of her students from China were removed from Canada's only level-4 lab on July 5, CBC News has learned.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-re...
WHO situation reports - likely daily updates for a while
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-cor...
And this on twitter
BREAKING: Head of the WHO says #coronovirus could yet become a global health emergency. 584 cases reported to WHO so far...575 of them in China.
https://twitter.com/cbctom/status/1220413211599613...
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-cor...
And this on twitter
BREAKING: Head of the WHO says #coronovirus could yet become a global health emergency. 584 cases reported to WHO so far...575 of them in China.
https://twitter.com/cbctom/status/1220413211599613...
Also from WHO
"Make no mistake. This is an emergency in #China, but it has not yet become a global health emergency.
https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1220413117001322497
"Make no mistake. This is an emergency in #China, but it has not yet become a global health emergency.
https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1220413117001322497
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