Bianca Williams stop accusing race motivated.

Bianca Williams stop accusing race motivated.

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eldar

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Bianca Williams: 'I've never had to experience anything like this', says British sprinter after police stop car https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/53305712

There is, according to the news, police body worn video of the event. This has not been released.

Is this going to be a case which is revolved by trial-by-video?

eldar

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wjb said:
I wonder how some of you guys would react if you'd been stopped, 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 times for no reason other than being black in a public place....

Would you all remain civilised, polite and calm?

Genuine question.
A valid question, but needs qualifying.

Do all black, rather than BAME, people get stopped multiple times for only being in a public place.

A reason has to be offered and recorded.

What happened after the stop?

Do the police have the resources to act this way?

Can you clarify.

eldar

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wjb said:
No, of course not, but being treated like a human being during the stop would be a start.
That is a two way street. The other video will, hopefully, clarify.

So far, we only have an edited clip from one party.

Neither you nor I know what happened in the lead up to and early part of the stop.

eldar

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wjb said:
Ages ago, thankfully.

I can't see much has changed though unfortunately, other than being slightly more subtle.
Do you really think society values, including the police haven’t changed in the last 30 years?

eldar

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HocusPocus said:
Winston Kodogo says Constable Savage needs much overdue retraining! Shame the racists.

Police body language appeared very threatening. Shocked to see arm drawn back holding baton when there was no obvious threat; arguably on the legal definition of assault.

Fair and compassionate policing for all required, otherwise the Met may lose the ability to police by consent.
Did you see the video a couple of posts above yours?

eldar

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Wednesday 8th July 2020
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R Mutt said:
Gammon and Karen aren't racist terms because while they apply exclusively to white people they are used to highlight traits other than skin colour such as becoming red in the face.

Promising footballer is applicable to all races however is a racist term as people would only use it to denigrate a black victim.

So basically it's whatever you want it to be whether that be to attack the subject or the user
That rather has the smell of a racist claiming racist terms aren’t racist because it only applies to people of one particular skin colour.

eldar

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Police apologise.

Bianca Williams: Met apologises to sprinter over stop-and-search https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53307...

Seems the police accept they were wrong.

eldar

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biggbn said:
Mmm? Another new spin on things. I am glad they have done so as the (admittedly one sided) footage, accepted practice or not, looked dreadful. I wonder what their reasons are?
Very good question. One could assume the body worn camera footage was ‘interesting’.

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Bigends said:
The driver failed to stop - NOT the passenger
Never seems to inhibit the Police from arresting and cuffing passengers on the many tv documentaries.

Videoing the police seems to be the answer.

eldar

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La Liga said:
he's apologising for the distress.

That's a perfectly normal and reasonable thing to do when it turns out a person hasn't done anything wrong.

She's not apologising for the stop and actions, is she?
Does the met boss normally apologise to everyone in similar situations?

It seems odd to apologise in this situation. Together with the reluctance to release video, it does appear to be encouraging ‘something to hide’.

I feel we aren’t being told something.