Manchester Bomber sentencing

[Gecko1978]

so he is due to be sentenced today but is refusing court (brother of the bomber who aided him).

Apparently force can not be used to make him attend.

Part of me thinks when you are found guilty even if you did not (as is your right) answer any questions you should have to face justice and that means hear what the judge has to say.

I think its sad we can not have him brought to court to face the music so to speak.

http://news.sky.com/story/hashem-abedi-brother-of-...

[Gecko1978]

Tom1312 said:

randlemarcus said:

Oddly enough, I think his actions are a compliment to our justice system, as it has evolved through thoughtful revisions, but always keeping the big picture in mind. Hate filled extremist, yes, and obviously with no manners, but the fact he CAN do this is important.

I totally agree.

It does say a lot about our system. I would like for ot to be the case that once found guilty you have to hear what is said to know why this is being handed down.

There are issues hear if the prisoner is violent in the Dock or distresses the family more etc but its one time I would happily see someone if needed brought in, in restraints to have sentence past.

[Gecko1978]

Carl_Manchester said:

Algarve said:

Its been delayed till tomorrow now.

I don't see the point in reading out all these victim statements or letting them have their say. He killed 20+ people just give him a life, no parole sentence and stop wasting any more of the courts time. Theres nothing that can be said for him in mitigation and the sentencing should be a formality.

Justice is not just about locking him up, it’s allowing the victims to express their suffering publicly and to make sure the judge takes these impacts into account in his sentencing statement, to make sure the rationale is water-tight.

the last thing we want is a sentencing appeal or this man to walk out after 25 years.

He has committed crimes but it’s also the level of harm which the judge has to assess as part of sentencing.

From what i saw and heard yesterday i was moved by the testimony and i think it may help some of the victims to express their suffering in this way as well as making sure this man never breathes free air again.

Exactly this. I feel at the end when guilt is found the important part then is to allow the victims a voice and the judge to explain clearly why the sentence is being given.

The guilty party must for justice to be complete have to face that aspect. Ultimately by sitting in his cell he is imposing his will on others again and I feel in this instance its a right that should not be afforded.

But dragging someone kicking and spitting into court might also not be in anyones interests.

[Gecko1978]

Well whether he faced the judge or not 55 years minimum seems about right he will be 78 when he is eligible for parole so I am guessing he is dying in jail.

He did refuse to attend court so I wonder how he found out the sentence did the prison guards 55 years in jail to go 55 years in jail to the tune of 10 green bottles who knows.