Laurence Fox - New Political Party

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Laurence Fox has always divided political opinion and got a lot of people wound up, at least on Twitter, by challenging what he sees as woke culture.

Now he's setting up his own political party he says is to stop culture wars.

Whilst we perhaps need to stand up to the virtue signallers of this world, is this party likely to be a flash in the pan racist party that might just help the left by taking away Tory support?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/laurence-fox-po...

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/t...

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El stovey said:

Cheeses of Nazareth said:

But this is why people like him should stay out of politics

The days where you could express an opinion , and not be villified for it if it doesnt agree with yours, are long gone.


I despair at the way things are currently going, the media bias , cancel culture , and censorship of opinion that prevails today allows the scenario we currently see .

The idea that not embracing BLM makes you a racist, is just the type of st that makes normal middle of the road people pick a side, which is exactly why the people that are funding it, are funding it.

I shake my head every day at some of the things we are expected to embrace, or risk being labelled with a polar opposite tag.

Its all manufactured BS and i am tired of it.

Has any of it actually affected you though in real life?

Surely “normal middle of the road people” are just getting on with it and not finding themselves having to embrace anything and aren’t remotely worried about getting cancelled or whatever.

I’m not embracing BLM and nobodies calling me racist. I haven’t gone on social media and spoken against it though.

That’s the difference,

Fox is just stoking up trouble to promote himself.

Then he’s all surprised that some people don’t want to be involved with him.

I’ve worked in a professional environment with all kinds of people, for decades and I don’t know anyone that’s been in trouble for being non PC or not woke enough.

Everyone’s got opinions but they’re just our thoughts. Most people are self aware enough to know that you can’t just go around saying whatever you want wherever you are.

X word is now considered racist? Great! thanks for telling me I’ll try and not use it.

Society has always had rules and conventions that constantly evolve. People can tell if you get it wrong but mean well or if you’re actually acting in a way which is less than optimum.

You can make every effort to say and do the right thing and still find yourself in potentially career threatening trouble.

Lucy Worsley made a television series, "America's Greatest Fibs," which was first broadcast last year. One episode was an unwhitewashed version of Emancipation and black American history. She quoted John Wilkes Booth and at the time of the first broadcast, there was no issue.

The BBC broadcast the episode again at the height of the BLM protests, perhaps thinking the programme was topical and would be appreciated by black people wanting the truth of their history to be told.

The result was people demanding Lucy Worsley be sacked from the BBC and from her university post and people, who'd probably not actually watched her programme, seeking her out on Twitter to inundate her with abuse. All because she'd said n****r on television. She was trying to be the bigger person, but she really shouldn't have felt the need to grovel to a teenager openly calling her a cow in public.

Black people are often casual about using it, especially in much of their music, but many claim that when a white person says it, it's traumatising and saying it in the context of a quote is as bad as directly calling someone that name.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3133434383419686

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/lucy-worsley-apol...

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Electro1980 said:

Gareth79 said:

Simon Hoare MP has been fairly forthright:
https://twitter.com/Simon4NDorset/status/135038171...

Fair comment though.

The problem with the mask exemption and not having to prove a genuine condition is that probably the majority of people who claim an exemption are what Simon says.

I understand that people with genuine conditions don't want to discuss them and we don't want supermarket workers demanding our papers like the Stasi, but whenever something requires the trust and responsibility of the public there are people who will take the piss.

The fact he can claim an exemption without any condition other than being a prat shows what a free country we actually live in, despite the present circumstances.

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Ashfordian said:

Countdown said:

Could be a disaster for Shaun Bailey - that's several votes he's lost in one fell swoop.

Even as a Tory voter this is a very good thing. The Conservative Party need a harsh lesson from the electorate to show our disgust at the disastrous route they have taken the country in. A huge Conservative defeat is needed to see a return to Conservatism.

Additionally, more Khan in London is the perfect punishment for Londoners that vote for him. It will be bad for London but you have to look into the abyss before admitting you are going in the wrong direction.

I do expect the Green extremist vote to eat into Khan's vote, although not enough to see him kicked out of office.

I think the problem with the Conservative Party is that it thinks Twitter represents society more than it does. Anyone taking notice of it during the last general election would have assumed Corbyn was going to win by a landslide and Johnson was going to lose his seat.

We have the likes of Fox and Farage on Twitter, but it's largely dominated by extreme left wing types who push woke agendas and governments assume the whole of society is in tune with them. As a result, most of the UK voted for the Conservatives and has a party that's pandering to Momentum activists.

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Lord Marylebone said:

bhstewie said:

The 'right-wing comedy' and 'British food only' bits are fair enough. It's their pub. They can tell old Roy 'chubby' Brown jokes about 'darkies' and serve jellied eels if they want, same as any pub could, but I have no idea what they mean by 'no masks and no vaccine passports'.

If masks and vaccine passports are legally required, then their pub will have to insist on masks and vaccine passports like everyone else.

If masks and vaccine passports are not legally required in pubs, then I am willing to bet that no pubs will be asking for them.

This just makes me think they are as thick as mince, or are trying to appeal to people who are as thick as mince.

By late June, masks and social distancing won't be required by law and vaccine passports just to get into a pub are unlikely.

I wonder if they'll ensure nothing they serve is imported?

A curry with all British sourced ingredients is more British in practice than lamb from New Zealand and veg from Israel.