Dr Seuss books cancelled

[Kessler]

fking hell, the woke mob is on fire these days!

So within the last few weeks:

- Mr & Mrs Potato head had to be made gender neutral as mr & mrs is now offensive - meanwhile let's teach our kids about transgenderism in the effort to normalise it. https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans...
- Dr. Hibbert from the Simpson can no longer be voiced by the white person who has been doing it for the past 30 years when nobody gave a st or even knew about it.
- Disney+ has added a content warning to old episodes of The Muppet Show for “negative depictions and/or mistreatment of people or cultures”.
- And today it has been announced that 6 Dr. Seuss books will be cancelled for apparently being racist. If you happen to own any of these terrible books, better burn them before your kids turn into white supremacists.

Seems like 4 years of Trump drove people completely batst crazy.

Edited by Kessler on Tuesday 2nd March 16:16

[Kessler]

drmike37 said:

Life is a lot easier if you don't read the Daily Mail.

Ah yes, the good old DM argument to discredit comments you dislike....really getting a bit long in the tooth don't you think?
All of the above is reported on many mainstream media sources

[Kessler]

Gareth79 said:

hyperblue said:

Easier to get frothed up from reading a headline than to spend 30 seconds on Google i suppose...

https://www.lcps.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&...

I think they are referring to the publisher taking 6 books out of print:
https://www.seussville.com/statement-from-dr-seuss...

Yes, it's referring to Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS) specifically.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/six-dr-seuss-books...

“These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement that coincided with the late author and illustrator’s birthday."

“Ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises’ catalog represents and supports all communities and families,” it said."

Edited by Kessler on Tuesday 2nd March 16:39

[Kessler]

gregs656 said:

Kessler said:

- Mr & Mrs Potato head had to be made gender neutral as mr & mrs is now offensive - meanwhile let's teach our kids about transgenderism in the effort to normalise it. https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans...

You had better update Hasbro as you seem to be cancelling their toys - the statement is:

'Hasbro is officially renaming the MR. POTATO HEAD brand to POTATO HEAD to better reflect the full line. But rest assured, the iconic MR. and MRS. POTATO HEAD characters aren’t going anywhere and will remain MR. and MRS. POTATO HEAD.'\

Nothing to do with gender, more to do with selling a wider range of toys under a brand name which captures all of them.

Well, Hasbro also said this:

"Hasbro is making sure all feel welcome in the Potato Head world by officially dropping the Mr from the Mr Potato Head brand name and logo to promote gender equality and inclusion," Hasbro said of the name change."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5620081...

[Kessler]

captain_cynic said:

Noodle1982 said:

The Mr potato head is a confusing one.

A trans person still uses Mr or Mrs.

Not really.

It's a marketing ploy and a money saving tactic rolled into one.

Getting the anit-woke crowd rolled into a lather gets you advertising you literally can't buy. Your product is now being mentioned on tv channels you literally can't buy air time on and for free no less.

You're also cutting down the different products you're making, reducing two lines (Mr and Mrs potato head) into just one. One set of packaging, one logistics chain, one production line. You get the idea.

However such logical thinking doesn't get the perpetually angry into a beet-faced full on impotent rage.

Kessler said:

Seems like 4 years of Trump drove people completely batst crazy.

Edited by Kessler on Tuesday 2nd March 16:16

To which you seem to be the prime example of.

Working yourself up into a massive impotent tanty over things that don't matter because you're triggered by... What? People not being aholes, the world moving on.

Try not to pop a vein in your head over the world leaving you behind sweetie.

Again, read the statement from Hasbro - more than are "money saving tactic", lol
"Hasbro is making sure all feel welcome in the Potato Head world by officially dropping the Mr from the Mr Potato Head brand name and logo to promote gender equality and inclusion," Hasbro said of the name change.
Interesting how you make up your own story to cover up for this lunacy.

You pretend none of this matters, and not being on board with it equates to being an asshole. Get on board with our agenda or else....Spoken like a true lefty, bravo.
Cancel culture has nothing positive to offer a free society - it works against it. Racism is not going away by labelling white people racists and teaching white kids that their privileged, and raising black kids to think they are victims. Teaching kids that the nuclear family is bad and transgenderism is normal isn't something I am willing to subject my prepubescent kids to. Yes, even if that makes me an "asshole"

[Kessler]

DeepEnd said:

JeffreyD said:

I have looked at this one and neither Mr nor Mrs are banned. It's a bullst story.

I haven't looked at the others as, well, life's too short.

It's like this sort of DM crap releases endorphines in the reader - they then have to have a hit everyday and then rant about it online as a form of release.

Seems you are the ones reading DM if you are so certain that's where I got it from. In fact it was here:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/six-dr-seuss-books...

What matters is that Hasbro intended to go through with it to show how woke they are. Just like Coca Cola intended to go through with their "be less white" training until there was an outcry. Perhaps like coke, Hasbro will have to let it go for now - so yeah, making your opinion heard when st like this is revealed, does have an effect

[Kessler]

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

boyse7en said:

bhstewie said:

Angry at potatoes

They'll be renaming them Queen Edwards soon!

I'm of an age where it was and probably always will be thought of as Mr Potato Head.

But if you ever stop to think "why do people just assume I want the Mr one because I'm a boy?" or "why am I meant to like blue stuff and not pink stuff?" or "what do you mean I can't wear this one because the buttons are on the wrong side?" it highlights how things that probably shouldn't matter still seem to matter quite a bit more than they should.

Honestly it's an interesting one and some peoples first instinct seems to be to get angry about it.

Until the 1940's pink was a masculine colour. Not entirely sure why, but I think it had to do with mimicking redcoats in Britain, and also red / pink was seen as a colour of Christ and the Virgin Mary.

So, things change, always have, always will.

Just like the DM once had a headline that wanted snowboarding banned then went on to sponsor the Daily Mail Ski and Snowboard Show. The NP&E Frothers will get all spitty and outraged, but it'll flow on past them,.

Difference is that in the 1940's there wasn't a war on "toxic masculinity".
Masculinity is on par with racism at the moment, because it's considered at odds with gender equality. And women are considered victims of oppression like people of colour. They way it's heading, I'm sure we will see a more concerted effort to remove the elements that make boys grow up with a clear male identity, in order to align with the equality agenda and stamp out persieved misogyny... ie gender neutralising toys, forcing LGBTQIA into early years school curriculum and promoting parenting which adopts a more gender fluid approach to childcare - its what will be expected in schools and from society in the name of tolerance and political correctness. Speaking out against it or will be labelled "hate speech" - always an effective way to prevent debate.

Blurring or removing the male/femal identifiers while normalising transgenderism and forcing kids to think about their sexuality from a very early age is, in my opinion, ultimately what leads to these alarming statistics:
https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans...
"even talking about detransition is viewed by some as transphobic"

Biden's pick for a completely unbiased health secretary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecPhwPto40
Combined with the recently passed "Equality Act", it's going to be easier for a child to make these life-changing decisions. Curious to see how this will affect the detransition statistics.

Edited by Kessler on Tuesday 2nd March 18:51

[Kessler]

captain_cynic said:

The Simpsons are losing viewers, I personally haven't even seen a re-run episode in the last 10 years, let alone any of the new stuff. They jumped the shark years ago and when they went pay-tv only that was putting the nails into the coffin.

There can't be much life left in the series and the writers know it... Hence they are trying to grab headlines to get people like you, those who get worked up over things like this, talking about it.

Also not to mention that Harry Shearer is 77 and probably looking to do a little less work.

The Simpsons had 32 seasons. That's a good run and it would be good to let the series die... However few of Groenings other ventured have gained any traction. None since Futurama really.

Again - you are making assumptions to downplay the reasons given by Simpsons crew themselves.
Yes, it does seem hard to believe that people have become so obsessed with racism that they manage to twist the above into a racist narrative, along with Uncle Ben's rice, Maths, Chess (white goes first), Eskimo ice cream etc etc....but the woke revolution is on fire - rather than just reading about it, I see the effect of it in my personal life.
One of many examples from my workplace was a recent article on our intranet explaining why "panel discussions with just white men are no longer allowed". Where we used to purely consider merrit - picking the best candidate form the banking industry for the relevance of the discussion on stage - we now have to pick according to the diversity ration of 50% non-white/50% female (so far there is no "other gender" requirement so guess it's still a bit transphobic).
People are walking on egg shells trying to avoid causing offence and not being inclusive enough. In my team we used to be colour blind, but we now have to consider our white privilege over our black colleagues. HR has never been busier.

Edited by Kessler on Tuesday 2nd March 19:31

[Kessler]

gregs656 said:

Kessler said:

Difference is that in the 1940's there wasn't a war on "toxic masculinity".
Masculinity is on par with racism at the moment, because it's considered at odds with gender equality. And women are considered victims of oppression like people of colour. They way it's heading, I'm sure we will see a more concerted effort to remove the elements that make boys grow up with a clear male identity, in order to align with the equality and stamp out misogyny... ie gender neutralising toys, forcing LGBTQIA into early years school curriculum and promoting parenting which adopts a more gender fluid approach to childcare - its what will be expected in schools and from society in the name of tolerance and political correctness. Speaking out against will be labelled "hate speech" - always an effective way to prevent debate.

Blurring or removing the male/femal identifiers while normalising transgenderism and forcing kids to think about their sexuality from a very early age is, in my opinion, ultimately what leads to these alarming statistics:
https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans...
"even talking about detransition is viewed by some as transphobic"

Biden's pick for a completely unbiased health secretary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecPhwPto40
Combined with the recently passed "Equality Act", it's going to be easier for a child to make these life-changing decisions. Curious to see how this will affect the detransition statistics.

You are conflating a whole ton of issues here in a way which doesn't really work.

I don't think there is a war on masculinity, although I do think there are efforts to try and improve the serious issue of young male suicide and how men access health care generally.

Your sexuality is not (can not) be forced on you. Teaching children that LGBT people exist, get married, and have or adopt children is not a bad thing. It is pretty sad that you seem to think this is an attack on masculinity. Gay teens should not be committing suicide because they think they are abnormal or unwelcome.

I did not suggest teaching about LGTB (I specifically mention L.G.B.T.Q.I.A) is a bad thing, depending from which age it's being included, or that gay teens should not be welcomed. You are the one making the conflation, but I understand drawing the "homophobia" card can work wonders during debates.
Rather, the combination of trying to normalize the idea of "infinite genders" and transgenderism and including this in a curriculum for 5-year olds, it poses a risk in an environment where identifiers for what we consider male and female characteristics and behaviour is increasingly blurred. Again, I am talking about the direction it's going and again, I'm referring to this specific issue and what causes it: https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans...

Perhaps let's pull out this thread in 5 years time and see where we stand on this.

Edited by Kessler on Tuesday 2nd March 19:46