First transgender athlete to compete at Olympics

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BBC said:

New Zealand's Laurel Hubbard has become the first ever transgender athlete picked to compete at an Olympics, in a controversial decision.

Officials have selected her for the women's weightlifting team for Tokyo 2020, after qualifying requirements were recently modified.

She had competed in men's events before coming out as transgender in 2013.

Critics say Hubbard has an unfair advantage, but others have argued for more inclusion at the Games

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She will compete in the women's 87-kg weightlifting category.

The 43-year-old became eligible to compete at the Olympics when the International Olympic Committee (IOC) in 2015 changed its rules allowing transgender athletes to compete as a woman if their testosterone levels are below a certain threshold.

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57549653

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chrispmartha said:

amgmcqueen said:

Why would they? All that training and dedication they've shown will be for nothing! What next? Usain Bolt identifying as female competing in the women's 100m final....?!

It's pathetic woke nonsense, dreamed up by idiots. Has no place in the Olympic games or any sport for that matter.

Why would they? Why not ask them rather than assuming women think the same as you?

Fwiw women tend to be more supportive of trans rights.

Fwiw I’m not 100% sure where I stand on the trans sports issue I think it’s really quite complicated and do not inow enough about sports science so don’t have string views either way.

But also I wouldn’t claim to know what women and indeed sports women think on the issue.

If Mumsnet is to be believed, seemingly not happy about it.

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Kateg28 said:

chrispmartha said:

Northernboy said:

chrispmartha said:

I haven’t said anything about CIS or TERF or used them, fwiw I don’t like the Terf, CIS doesn’t bother me though.

Also You don’t need to have had genital surgery to have gone through gender reassignment

You keep using the term, you know it’s offensive to many women, but choose to continue.

Why?

Keep using what term?

And again speaking for women i see.

Edited by chrispmartha on Tuesday 22 June 21:05

I am a woman. I do not see why I have to be labelled as a ciswoman. I was born a woman and I am a woman.

OEM Woman.

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ZedLeg said:

Northernboy said:

ZedLeg said:

As has happened a few times in this thread your opinion appears to have been swayed by what amounts to propaganda from the anti trans movement.

There isn't anyone selling people on transitioning to solve mental health issues.

Mermaids are.

Prove it.

Interview with Marcus Evans who formerly served as Consultant Psychotherapist and Associate Clinical Director of Adult and Adolescent Service at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust.

What are your thoughts on the Keira Bell case BTW?

Edited by g3org3y on Wednesday 23 June 12:47

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Gecko1978 said:

ZedLeg said:

g3org3y said:

Interview with Marcus Evans who formerly served as Consultant Psychotherapist and Associate Clinical Director of Adult and Adolescent Service at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust.

What are your thoughts on the Keira Bell case BTW?

Edited by g3org3y on Wednesday 23 June 12:47

Ok so, An NHS run clinic being accused of fast tracking transitions for young people already in the system isn't the same as claiming a charity that helps young people with gender issues is pushing people towards transitioning as a fix for mental health issues.

The clinic also faced claims of holding up treatment for people so there's clearly more to the story.

As for the last thing, it's very sad that this girl feels like she was mislead into transitioning when other treatments may have been better for her. You always have to be very careful when dealing with young people, especially when dealing with something as life changing as transitioning. I wouldn't want to say anymore as I don't know enough about the specific issues.

If you listend to it, the whistle blower was saying the charity was pushing children who may have had underlying issues not related to gender to transition, by assisting them with answeting questions from psychiatrists which would then allow them to move on to hormone therapy. The whistle blower claimed the charity was influencing clinical practices. Both of those things are wrong and I am not sure why you would push someome to transition without considering other issues. He also noted the recent change aas a growth in female to male transition which was practically non existent 20 years ago. If we assume sexual orientation, gender identity differences are perfectly naturally occurring then a sharp shift in a short space of time does bare scrutiny.

ZedLeg, did you actually listen to the interview?

8.4L 154 said:

g3org3y said:

What are your thoughts on the Keira Bell case BTW?

I'm guessing you're going to be against the prescribing of puberty blockers for all the spurious reasons trans critical activists usually are such as it's a one way street to CSH despite them being prescribed in multiple other instances without leading to CSH or the unsubstantiated claims of reduced bone density.

What do you think of the Keira Bell case?

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Kinky said:

STOP

Polite notice to those of you left on this thread. If you don't have anything polite or inoffensive to post, then simply don't.

Congrats on 38k posts.