Eco- Warriers. Are They All Hypocrites?

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Latest example Chris Packham.

On the one hand preaches climate panic.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/lifestyle/a343...

On the other hand leads tours to Alaska. Surely among the least green destinaTIONS ON EARTH.

https://www.steppestravel.com/blog/alaska-in-searc...

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alangla said:

I'm looking forward to COP26 later this year (if it happens) - thousands of eco warriors from all over the world jetting in to Glasgow to lecture the rest of us on how air travel is bad.
Helpfully, it seems the Clydeside Expressway past the SECC is going to be closed, presumably so they don't have the sight of people actually going about their business near their jamboree. The poor sods that use the various buses that normally travel on the Expressway will no doubt feel they're really doing their bit for the environment as they're stuck on the hideously congested Argyle Street/Dumbarton Road etc that parallels it.
On the plus side, at least the adjacent rail station is remaining open as far as I can see - earlier plans had that closed IIRC.

https://ukcop26.org/
https://www.getreadyglasgow.com/event/climate-chan...

As someone who works in Glasgow and lives just outside I'm dreading it. Congestion. Combined with Sturgeon being even more annoying on TV than usual. Just hoping it is a particularly wet November so all the hangers on get hypothermia.

Wouldn't have chosen November in Glasgow for the weather that is for sure. Windy, wet, rainy, dark at 5pm.

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PeteinSQ said:

Who are people more likely to listen to, Dave from Dagenham or someone really famous? Of course this has the opposite effect on some people who thene start chucking around pointless terms like "woke" to denigrate them.

Or someone famous who doesn't tell other people to do what they won't do themselves.

I'm trying hard to think of a famous person with a small carbon footprint. Struggling.

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bhstewie said:

Personally I doubt you can get away without leaving any footprint so it's about the size of the one you do leave.

A bit smaller if you holiday in the UK or Europe instead of flying to Alaska?

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I've done my bit by not flying abroad this year. Next year - west coast USA here I come!!

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bhstewie said:

irc said:

bhstewie said:

Personally I doubt you can get away without leaving any footprint so it's about the size of the one you do leave.

A bit smaller if you holiday in the UK or Europe instead of flying to Alaska?

What if you holiday in Europe 3 times a year for 20 years or you go to Alaska once and don't ever fly anywhere on holiday again because Alaska blew you away and you changed your entire way of life?

Or of course it might make you think travelling is awesome and you only live once so you go jetting off all over the world for sts and giggles.

It doesn't look great but if you looked at Attenborough's footprint and didn't consider the way he's raised awareness over the past 50-60 years I think you'd be taking a bit of a narrow view.

All I'm saying is it's not always as simple and black and white as "hypocrites!!!" IMO.

I think it is relatively simple. Advocating smaller carbon footprints does not square with advocating long haul holidays. Less CO2 except for these holidays I'm being paid for?

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NMNeil said:

True.
I'm just guessing that it was about 2010 that we became acutely aware that plastics were destroying the worlds oceans. The obvious answer would be to reduce the production of plastics, yet:
https://www.darrinqualman.com/global-plastics-prod...

Actually in the west we have made much progress.

" It is estimated that 81% of ocean plastics come from Asian rivers"


https://ourworldindata.org/ocean-plastics

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survivalist said:

EV is an odd one. Now almost everyone is focussed on a monthly cost (rather than a purchase cost) for cars it just comes down to the deals that manufactures offer. Most people don't factor in running costs. If they did, EVs would likely be more popular.

Only works for the more affluent though. Theres no £2k option if you want an EV, unless its fked that is

And once they have got rid of ICE cars. Next step will be to reduce EV use.

"Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said: "Public transport and active travel will be the natural first choice for our daily activities.

"We will use our cars less and be able to rely on a convenient, cost-effective and coherent public transport network.""

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-520...