NHS whats happened?

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interested on thoughts what exactly is going on with the NHS

an example we had a friend who had an accident at work fall from height and fracture of his leg ....It was an obvious break , not a potential sprain. femur . Ambulance was called , went to Poole hospital in Dorset .

remained in the ambulance for 14 1/2hrs ............. He was told its not life threatening . subsequently he had the leg set , put in one of those leg braces and was sent on his way

Now i know casualty is busy ... but What is the reason , for such a wait

Shortage of doctors
Too many patients
not enough beds .................this didnt require a bed
poor assessment triage

or is there a darker reason , NHS going slow due to pay deals ?? political; reasons unions etc

no idea but this needs fixing

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LivLL said:

272BHP said:

Why call an ambulance for a fractured leg?

Why could someone not get him in a vehicle and off to A&E?

Broken femur, yup well just lift him up and pop him in the fiesta. Ok.

It’s just an example of how like the OP, years ago same was apparent. We all know it isn’t a bottomless pit of resources, I’m sure the MHS has plenty of stats to show overall performance rather than individual cases.

HSE policy to call an ambulance there was potential for other internal injuries , however thats not the point raised . The ambulance was despatched quickly
once it arrived at hospital is where the problem arose
he was then sat outside the hospital in the ambulance for 14 1/2 hrs which seems a waste of resources

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Griffith4ever said:

DBSV8 said:

LivLL said:

272BHP said:

Why call an ambulance for a fractured leg?

Why could someone not get him in a vehicle and off to A&E?

Broken femur, yup well just lift him up and pop him in the fiesta. Ok.

It’s just an example of how like the OP, years ago same was apparent. We all know it isn’t a bottomless pit of resources, I’m sure the MHS has plenty of stats to show overall performance rather than individual cases.

HSE policy to call an ambulance there was potential for other internal injuries , however thats not the point raised . The ambulance was despatched quickly
once it arrived at hospital is where the problem arose
he was then sat outside the hospital in the ambulance for 14 1/2 hrs which seems a waste of resources

I would not willingly move someone with a broken femur unless absolutely forced too. It's the toughest bone in the body and sits right next to the femoral artery. Cut that with bone and your patient will bleed to death internally very quickly.

Very unpleasant break, seen one first hand. The leg muscles no longer have the femur holding the leg straight so they slowly contract, "folding " the leg up. Someone has to (carefully) pull it straight at some point, making sure to avoid the artery. I have never heard an adult man scream so much in my life when they did it in the back of the ambulance, and he was on gas and air!

That was my take on it , I worked with a I Fijian several years back who was unlucky enough to be hit by an AK-47 round that severed his femoral artery , Two things saved him a medic who was adjacent to him and a Cassi vac by helicopter . he described the blood pumping out akin to a garden hose .
Not pleasant