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S600BSB said:
If the historic buildings are protected, and the government say they will be, not sure what the problem is as a short term measure. Decent use of empty public owned accommodation?
I trust the historic buildings will be protected?Given that assurance, the airfield is capable to accommodate thousands of migrants, in suitable, temporary modular facilities well away from the historic buildings plus, easy access to departure by aeroplane, when their 'claim' is rejected, within a secure environment.
I'm still to be re-assured that the Govt won't 're-purpose' the existing Barracks...
pablo said:
Not sure why claim uses inverted commas, when ex-Afghan forces personnel are having to use small boats as a means of claiming asylum, something is fundamentally wrong.
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How many ex-Afghan forces have arrived on the shores of Dover by means of a rubber boat?...
Genuinely interested to have the evidence... ?
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hstewie said:
Shocking, if true?hstewie said:Shouldn't the UN simply take over the country, and provide a safe, democratic, environment for all, or a means to apply for asylum on the borders of Afghanistan?
Or, maybe the UN could support those who will stand and fight for democracy in their own country??
Frik said:
pequod said:
valiant said:
I suppose they could actually process them quicker…
Indeed! No papers >>> 
Just a guess, but did those higher number of asylum applicants in the past turn up in rubber boats compared to today?
pablo said:
pequod said:
bhstewie said:
Shocking, if true?hstewie said:Shouldn't the UN simply take over the country, and provide a safe, democratic, environment for all, or a means to apply for asylum on the borders of Afghanistan?
Or, maybe the UN could support those who will stand and fight for democracy in their own country??
Back on topic, I am not against the use of abandoned airfields to house asylum seekers but RAF Scampton has significant historical reasons why, In my opinion, it is unsuitable for consideration.
https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/public...
https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/public...
don'tbesilly said:
Scampton wasn’t going to stay as open fields, morph into Stonehenge or be the site of a new Windsor Castle, the proposals for Scampton had already been proposed prior to the Home Office decision to turn Scampton into a ‘Hi-Di-Hi campsite’ for migrants.
https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/growth-regeneratio...
https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/council-news/2023/...
Indeed, and this link is a worthwhile read...https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/growth-regeneratio...
https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/council-news/2023/...
https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/council-news/2023/...
Murph7355 said:
Frik said:
Have the numbers without paperwork increased significantly? I can't find any evidence to back this up.
I can find evidence that changes to the way claimants are assessed, changes to the organisational structure of the civil servants who do the assessments and subsequent low morale have slowed things down. These are all things the government has control over.
No idea whether it's increased or not. Only figures I could find were for Ireland - ~40% allegedly have no papers there. Can't see it being much different here. Logically you could argue it would likely be higher for those coming over by small boat.I can find evidence that changes to the way claimants are assessed, changes to the organisational structure of the civil servants who do the assessments and subsequent low morale have slowed things down. These are all things the government has control over.
It's just another area where the stats are murky/non-existent.
Migration Observatory has some interesting figures. There'll certainly be no one silver bullet.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/br...
Can anyone suggest other Military/RAF facilities which can be adapted to provide short, or long term, accommodation for the migrant/asylum seekers?
pablo said:
Alconbury, Bibury, Brampton, Brawdy, Bruntingthorpe… so five viable locations before we get to “c”….
Quite a few suitable locations are in the Lincolnshire area too where there is a shortage of farm labour resource and it’s almost spring time…. #winning
The cynic in me wonders which Tory donor is in the frame for the Contract for the infrastructure and management of the sites…. I doubt it will go to tender but be rushed through as an emergency procurement aka PPE.
Excellent suggestions there, pablo.Quite a few suitable locations are in the Lincolnshire area too where there is a shortage of farm labour resource and it’s almost spring time…. #winning
The cynic in me wonders which Tory donor is in the frame for the Contract for the infrastructure and management of the sites…. I doubt it will go to tender but be rushed through as an emergency procurement aka PPE.
Edited by pablo on Thursday 30th March 18:55
I assume all are viable alternative solutions to RAF Scampton?
don'tbesilly said:
pequod said:
98elise said:
And assuming they are using the accommodation blocks then there is nothing to convert.
Which are now being considered for Heritage (Grade 2) buildings?Many more derelict Military sites are available without destroying a special piece of our heritage, I would suggest?
https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/council-news/2023/...
Brooklands? Only a small section remains, but it is large part of the history of motorsport, and, in the same vein, so is RAF Scampton?
S600BSB said:
pequod said:
Should we protect our Heritage sites? Not simply one (1) building, but all surviving buildings from that era? Plus the runway, albeit the landings are different today?
Brooklands? Only a small section remains, but it is large part of the history of motorsport, and, in the same vein, so is RAF Scampton?
Why on earth would you want to protect a runway!Brooklands? Only a small section remains, but it is large part of the history of motorsport, and, in the same vein, so is RAF Scampton?
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