Do I move my £65,000 in my cash Isa to Stocks & Shares Isa

Do I move my £65,000 in my cash Isa to Stocks & Shares Isa

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gregs1959

Original Poster:

102 posts

116 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Not sure what to do. I already have £10,000 in fund smith do I move the £65,00 in to that.

Interested what anyone else would do.

Thanks
Mark

montecristo

1,044 posts

178 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Stocks are very expensive now. As I've been saying since October, missing out on a massive rally.

DeepFriedMarsBar

22 posts

82 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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gregs1959 said:
Not sure what to do. I already have £10,000 in fund smith do I move the £65,00 in to that.

Interested what anyone else would do.

Thanks
Mark
Depends on your attitude to risk. You are getting naff all return on cash, so if you are happy not be in capital secure, why not ? I wouldn't put it all in one fund though, have a spread for a bit of diversification.

drainbrain

5,637 posts

112 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Tenner on 'won't last a week' ? wink

Edited by drainbrain on Tuesday 25th July 16:05

gregs1959

Original Poster:

102 posts

116 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Tenner on 'won't last a week' ?

Not sure what you mean drain brain. Sorry.

DeepFriedMarsBar

22 posts

82 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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gregs1959 said:
Tenner on 'won't last a week' ?

Not sure what you mean drain brain. Sorry.
Don't worry. Neither does he.

drainbrain

5,637 posts

112 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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gregs1959 said:
Tenner on 'won't last a week' ?

Not sure what you mean drain brain. Sorry.
Beg pardon Greg....sort of 'in joke' with a mod....

Mr "Mars Bar" could explain further tho'. smile


Edited by drainbrain on Tuesday 25th July 16:45

gregs1959

Original Poster:

102 posts

116 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Ha no worries.

ramblo93

184 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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I'm in a similar quandary. Got circa 25k in a cash isa to transfer over....been holding off for 6 months now waiting for a dip/slump/crisis as a good time to buy some S&S.

Given the cash return is naff all I've decided to proceed with the transfer then start dripping it into funds slowly and if there's a massive crash fill my boots.

terrydacktal

2,685 posts

83 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Hardly worth worrying about on an amount that small.

red_slr

17,339 posts

190 months

NickCQ

5,392 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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montecristo said:
Stocks are very expensive now. As I've been saying since October, missing out on a massive rally.
Haha, I did the same thing with this year's ISA allowance (since April) but in hindsight 'twas not the optimal strategy.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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terrydacktal said:
Hardly worth worrying about on an amount that small.
Good to see someone upholding the traditions of the PH finance section wink

jeff m2

2,060 posts

152 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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It's amazing, and a little sad, that these posts appear at a time when the market has been flying since November.

Doubly so for a Sterling investor.

I hate to rub salt in a wound, but I hope you are aware of the loss in buying power you have suffered,
With the Pound where it is, you can't get value from investing in the S & P, it's just too expensive unless you are prepared to take a very long position.
Europe looks a little better value.
Emerging Markets is attracting too much money, as is Asia. China is a little wobbly because they may screw with the credit.
However the Caterpillar Company just released its earnings along with its highly respected projections, which said that future growth looks rosier than the recent IMF report.
I personally put more stead in Caterpillar than the IMFsmile

I assume you are aware you have lost out, or you probably wouldn't have posted. You cannot capture the gains from the last eight Months, all you can do is look forward.
So, you are basically looking at UK and Europe. You could also consider a small, maybe 10%, in a contrarian position such as Eastern Europe (basically Russia), that would also cover an oil price recovery should there be one.

Interest rates in UK are not going to rise yet (that'll come back to bite me no doubt) so unless you consider corp bonds or variable loans you have little choice other than equity.

The FTSE 100 is not so high that it makes entry look foolish. If you were to dissect its component parts there are sectors which are not high.
I personally would prefer a fund more aligned with the FTSE 350 (or even the 250)

I don't think you need a long narrative on inflation....just think back to how much a beer cost in the 6th form!

Mattt

16,661 posts

219 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Even if you decide to make the switch, I would personally be drip feeding the money in - over what period is up to you.

98elise

26,740 posts

162 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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jeff m2 said:
It's amazing, and a little sad, that these posts appear at a time when the market has been flying since November.

Doubly so for a Sterling investor.

I hate to rub salt in a wound, but I hope you are aware of the loss in buying power you have suffered,
With the Pound where it is, you can't get value from investing in the S & P, it's just too expensive unless you are prepared to take a very long position.
Europe looks a little better value.
Emerging Markets is attracting too much money, as is Asia. China is a little wobbly because they may screw with the credit.
However the Caterpillar Company just released its earnings along with its highly respected projections, which said that future growth looks rosier than the recent IMF report.
I personally put more stead in Caterpillar than the IMFsmile

I assume you are aware you have lost out, or you probably wouldn't have posted. You cannot capture the gains from the last eight Months, all you can do is look forward.
So, you are basically looking at UK and Europe. You could also consider a small, maybe 10%, in a contrarian position such as Eastern Europe (basically Russia), that would also cover an oil price recovery should there be one.

Interest rates in UK are not going to rise yet (that'll come back to bite me no doubt) so unless you consider corp bonds or variable loans you have little choice other than equity.

The FTSE 100 is not so high that it makes entry look foolish. If you were to dissect its component parts there are sectors which are not high.
I personally would prefer a fund more aligned with the FTSE 350 (or even the 250)

I don't think you need a long narrative on inflation....just think back to how much a beer cost in the 6th form!
Surely the exchange rate doesn't make any difference? If you buy 65k worth of something and it rises 10%, then you have made 6.5k. It only makes a difference if the exchange rate changes over the same period surely?

jonny70

1,280 posts

159 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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98elise said:
Surely the exchange rate doesn't make any difference? If you buy 65k worth of something and it rises 10%, then you have made 6.5k. It only makes a difference if the exchange rate changes over the same period surely?
The fall in the sterling over the past 12 months is a large contribution to the growth of U.K. Funds/shares (over the past 12 months) as oversea earnings become a lot greater (example earn in $100 in USA and when converted to GBP it's a lot more than it was in 2015).

If brexit starts to go more sour and the Pound goes into free fall then the share indexs will keep rising (ignoring other factors )where as if the Pound significantly strengths then overseas earnings will shrink and shares/fund prices will fall

To answer the OP question I would drip feed it in to a ISA across funds that have a long term good record.



gregs1959

Original Poster:

102 posts

116 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Thought you was only allowed to put money in to one s&s Isa per year. Mine is Fundsmith. Currently put £500 per month in by direct debit.

If I don't do anything with the £65,000 I loose money due to inflation.

My wife is in the same situation has s&s Isa with Hargreaves Lansdown again paying in £500.00 month.

Still no wiser. 😤😤😤


Aletank

103 posts

83 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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If you started this years ISA with Fundsmith, I'd max that out for this year, worse places to have money than Fundsmith !

Edited by Aletank on Friday 28th July 20:22