Remortgaging on a foreign income??

Remortgaging on a foreign income??

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King Herald

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Wife and I are going our separate ways, after 22 years. It is amicable, fairly, she is keeping the house abroad, I am keeping the one in the UK. Clean break, hopefully...

Solicitors have told me I need to remortgage the house in order to put the mortgage in just my name, instead of shared. It is not so simple as just scrubbing the wife’s name off of the mortgage contract.

However, I am retired on a pension paid in US$ and Lloyd’s cannot give mortgages, or remortgages, if that is your income.

Off to HSBC tomorrow to see if they will do it.

It is a new rule, came in a year again apparently but it must screw with a whole bunch of people who work overseas, or for foreign companies? Unless it I shall just Lloyd’s who are insisting on it? We bought the house in 2006 and they didn’t care about it back then.

It is less than 30k I owe, so maybe a personal loan instead of remortgage?

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sc0tt said:
She didn't last long over here, sorry to hear about that.

Personal loan if you can't get a mortgage.

This may be better off in the finance section.
She isn’t actually here, though she has lived here in the last, for many years.

Not sure there is a finance section unless that is the news and economics


TooMany2cvs said:
The problem is the exchange rate risk. If it was a high LtV, then it'd be a real risk, but since it's such a low LtV (I presume - you don't say what the value is) it's more of a scaremongery thing. However, being US$, there's also the FATCA side for them to panic over, which will scare a lot of institutions off - and not just for mortgages.
House was valued at 165k a few months ago, but if they have a hard and fast rule it can’t be shifted at any price I guess.

I think the loan might be easier, off to see HCBC on the morrow. They are my normal bank people.

Edited by King Herald on Thursday 23 November 07:42

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ZOLLAR said:
re asking about Finance section

here it is

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&...

Perhaps ask the mods to move it, there's a poster called Sarnie that may actually be able to help you, seems to be very knowledgeable and works in the industry it seems.

Good luck!
Bloody hell, I couldn’t find it for looking..... doh.

Mods, help....can you move it?.


Ayahuasca said:
Sorry to hear that, hope it all works out for you.
Thanks. It has been a long time coming, but we finally decided to do the deed.

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DanL said:
At £30k it's almost certainly easier to get an unsecured loan and pay off the mortgage, with the advantage that if you default you don't lose the house... The other side of that is that you will be paying a higher rate of interest on it.
Yes, that seems a better option. I’ve seen loans “from 3.5%” which is just 1 more than my mortgage will be next month.

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Rosscow said:
Sorry to hear your news, KH.

Hope you get it sorted without too much hassle.
It’s sad to end 22 years together, and even sadder to leave the dream house we built behind. We agreed she will have that, I will keep the one in the U.K.





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I guess asking HSBC for the remortgage is my first option, then try for the loan second.

No idea what will happen to the divorce and related stuff if I can’t get this mortgage sorted. Wife has signed the papers thus far, so I hope this remortgage thing can’t throw a spanner in the works if it doesn’t pan out.

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Yesterday I explained to the front desk operative at HSBC what I needed, and could he find out if they will do mortgage on foreign income. He went off, three separate times, came back, made me an appointment to speak to the correct person to arrange it today.

3pm today I rolled up, sat down, woman asks me what she can do for me..... she has no idea what I wanted and cannot answer my question because it is not her department.

She cannot sort a mortgage out anyway, her job is just to take my details, and book me an appointment with someone who can.

She promises someone who knows will call me, maybe tomorrow, maybe Saturday......

I’m losing the will to live. frown


King Herald

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A little Googling tells me NatWest actually do mortgages on foreign income.

I may get on the phone to them tomorrow.

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tighnamara said:
Why not use Sarnie, not personally used him but would if I needed some mortgage work.
Has plenty of very good feedback on the Finance forum with helping PH on their mortgages.
He has answered a few questions here already.

shout Sarnie, HEEELLLP.

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Sarnie said:
Unfortunately I don't really see how this can be done I'm afraid...........certainly not with a high street lender.............a specialist might do it.......but the rates won't be comparable to prime lenders and products......
Do you think they would give a personal loan, or does that come under the same rules?

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Can I get a loan secured on the house, or is that impossible? I know it is already mortgaged, but if the same bank that it is mortgaged with (Lloyd’s) did the loan.....

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Sarnie said:
If I were you I would speak to your current lender and whoever you bank with......they are the loans most likely to bend criteria for you.......
If my current banking people turn me down for the mortgage, I shall walk across the road and ask at the mortgage holder bank for a loan. smile

I can scrape together some of the money, but still need to borrow 25k

King Herald

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A company called Rockhopper keep popping up on Google, stating they will do such a mortgage.

Anybody heard of them, experience, advice?

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Just spoke to HSBC, and they tell me my pension actually arrives in my account in GB pounds, so they don’t see a problem.

I was assuming it was sent in $ and converted. Appointment with them on Monday to apply for mortgage....

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ZOLLAR said:
Hope it works out fine for you thumbup
Thanks. biggrin

Enough stress and trauma been had already this year, next year can only be an improvement, surely....

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Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Hsbc tell me my application has been approved. biggrin

And at 1.69% fixed for two years it is going to be cheaper than my current mortgage at Lloyd’s, which is going up to 2.5% starting in December.

I’ve got to go sign papers tomorrow. Apparently I need to get something to give to my solicitors, ‘agreement in principle’ or similar.

I assume I can’t actually sign the new mortgage agreement until the wife agrees to it, and the court agrees too, my solicitors seem to assume I know everything there is to know about the process, rather sparse with communication.

Just like buying/selling a house, the solicitor is your best friend, until you sign on the dotted line then it is like getting blood out of a stone to glean information or a reply.

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ZOLLAR said:
Good to hear, that's much better than my mortgage renewal going through now and I'm getting paid domestically hehe
And no arrangement fee either. Sounds too good to be true, so I’m waiting to be let down..... scratchchin

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carreauchompeur said:
Great stuff. Getting that signed off will be a relief I expect.
I have to take the ‘offer in principal’ to the solicitor, just to show I have it, then I believe she will have to get the wife to sign papers, from t’other side of the planet, then I think I get to actually sign for the mortgage on my own.

And then I will own most of a 3 bed semi to show for 40 years of work..... tumbleweed

But at least I will be a free man. biggrinwobblebeerdrink