Every board I lift...

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CrutyRammers

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Saturday 22nd February 2014
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...I find another joy. Just started redoing the kitchen and went under the boards to disconnect some wires I no longer need. By chance, I happened across the main light circuit:



It's not the first one of the previous owner's little electrical treats I found, previous highlights were the upstairs and downstairs ring mains being connected together, and an unfused spur running out to the shed, joined half way with terminal block, buried in the mud and concreted over. So actually this one isn't so bad in the scheme of things. Just another little unexpected job to do...

CrutyRammers

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Sunday 23rd February 2014
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Oh I already fixed that this evening, 2 JBs, one for the switch circuit, the other to split the switched live off to each light. I keep hearing about these wago ones so I might check them out, thanks.
I think our man's efforts inside the house were confined to the kitchen and bedroom above. The basic wiring is all proper, but he went around bodging and splicing here there and everywhere on top. Like all of the kitchen cabinet lights, extractor, spot lights, bedroom lights, and bedroom sockets all came from a single spur in the kitchen(!) At least it was fused I suppose. We had that sorted a few years back. Fortunately, the rest of the house all looks untouched since it was last rewired.

CrutyRammers

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Sunday 23rd February 2014
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Well, it is a fair question, given that it's been there for a good 20 years I think. "Not very well protected" I would guess sums it up.

CrutyRammers

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Monday 24th February 2014
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Laplace said:
CPC continuity has not been extended throughtout the circuit as it appears some cpc conductors have been chopped off. Circuit protective devices may not operate as intended and potential may rise to dangerous levels on exposed conductive parts = danger of death. (I wouldn't like to touch any metal face plates in that house.)


Edited by Laplace on Sunday 23 February 23:15
I don't think it's quite that bad hehe The wires with the chopped earths were just going out to Gu10 fittings with no earths, radial style. Although ideally he should have left them connected at the connector end, there's actually nothing to connect them to at the light end. So I guess it'd only be a problem I suppose if someone came along later and changed the fittings to something which did need an earth, because they wouldn't know that it's been chopped further along...

CrutyRammers

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Monday 24th February 2014
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Laplace said:
No problem, I understand. I obviously don't know where the cables are going therefore I'm commenting generally but you've also gave a good reason why good working practice should always be maintained.

Edited by Laplace on Monday 24th February 00:42
Oh agree totally. You can rest assured that I reconnected all the earths. wink It's not like it's much harder...well when you're using a proper JB that is.

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Monday 24th February 2014
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Spare tyre said:
when we lived in a student house years ago, the boiler packed up, eventually that was fixed

About an hour later, room mate comes back, this electrics in his room were not working, but were elsewhere, odd

We waited about a week (running extension leads for room mate) and nothing happened, land lord claimed he'd already spent 500 this week, bla bla bla. One of our friends decided to investigate, the plumber has disturbed some clearly dodgy electrics and made them safe, probably being kind to the landlord.

The dodgy electrics were spurs created with the straight bits of a coat hanger running above the joists and below the floor boards, joined for about 6ft, where it went back to traditional cable. So three bare live metal, genius

If someone would have spilt a drink they would of been zapped!
Stuff like that amazes me. T&E costs 1 pound a metre at my local hardware store, and would be a damn site easier to fit than bodging coat hanger wire in.