Countax C600H drive to blades failed

Countax C600H drive to blades failed

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Skyedriver

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Monday 21st August 2017
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Hi, new house, big garden, polytunnel (more of that and it's renovation later) plus a possibly knackered ride on mower.
So sorted the fuel leak, not yet got the belt that empties the back, blew up the flat tyres and got it started. Headed out into the garden and it cut the grass for about twenty metres then drive to the blades failed. Belt is good but the drive pulley isn't turning. Any ideas, or a new mower?
Thanks
Tony

Skyedriver

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Monday 21st August 2017
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Guys, sorry, no idea, used to pushing a little power mower around.
Do I need to get this up in the air and dismantle from underneath or strip from the top?
Apparently something similar has happened before, according to neighbour. Previous owner got it bogged in the gravel on the front drive, getting it out the garage, like I did this afternoon.....

Skyedriver

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Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Thanks for all the advice, think I might have solved it.
It's a very early model about 20 year old. Everything is loose, only one bolt actually holds bonnet on, dash panel broken, some lights on it but no clues as to what they are etc. Choke cable seized. Can't auto empty bag if I can fill it as there's a belt missing I believe.
Anyway there's a toggle switch on the dashboard that you have to click off before the cutters work which is against what the symbols indicate.
Chucking it down here today (again)(Oban) so driven it into the polytunnel (through the doors) and will try it once it dries. Not attempting garage with deep gravel again. Still that means room for the car.

Skyedriver

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Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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No, just this switch on the dash it seems. Next prob is the grass collector doesn't. The PTO under the seat isn't rotating but the belt is complete if a big tatty.

Skyedriver

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Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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This one is supposed to be down to engage but beginning to wonder...
I was told there was a snapped belt but thought it was the one that turns the collecting brushes as the one from the PTO to the grass box is not snapped.
And yes there is a big lever to empty you're correct, just need a way of getting the PTO to operate.
Onward and upward, the garage door is stuck in the open position now.....

Skyedriver

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Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Thanks Andy, the way bits keep working loose it looks a bit like that exploded diagram!
Yes I think it's the belt under the black cover that might have gone but not looked yet.
And another thing, when using it yesterday, the fore/aft lever is not very positive and selecting reverse was getting more difficult as the evening went on. As I said, it's pretty knackered, probably only a couple more cuts this year though so might go looking for a new one ready for 2018. (subject to sale of old place).

Skyedriver

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Thursday 24th August 2017
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Sorry, fore/aft lever=the one by your right hand that gives either forward motion or into reverse. Except reverse is not always an option.

Skyedriver

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Friday 25th August 2017
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Thanks again, I'll photo over the weekend and upload on Monday.

Skyedriver

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Monday 28th August 2017
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Pics as promised
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Skyedriver

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Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Pre-dates mine but the principles will be the same.

- cutting deck : think that was sorted and it's just knowledge of how the switch works?

- PTO : lever up to engage on yours by the look of it. You could do with someone sitting in the seat while you look to see if the PTO belt is turning. Don't go sticking your fingers in there, or wear loose clothing around it etc smile . You should also hear it engage (additional whirring etc).

If the PTO (pulley under the seat) is working but it's not sweeping, it will be a PGC (powered grass collector) belt that's broken (side black covers on the PGC).

- emptying : again sorted before I think? The lever sticking out of the PGC over your left shoulder...lift and pull it towards you.

- drive lever : I don't have this (mine are foot pedals), but assuming it's connected to a hydrostatic gearbox the lever will have a mechanism that connects to an arm on the gearbox itself. It will be easier to see if you remove the rear right wheel. I would bet you've either got a bolt coming loose or the arm needs greasing etc.

It would probably also be worth changing the oil in the transmission if drive's been a bit flaky (again if a hydrostatic box).
Thanks Murph
I thought it was down to connect the PTO -Doh!
Top up the hydrostatic - there was an empty beaker with the unit with traces of a red oil in it ATF? but looked for a filler with no success, just engine oil.
The lever by the right hand drive forward/backwards etc if you can imagine a gear linkage on a very worn 1970 Transit van...feels like it's connected with string and elastic bands