double width garage door conversion

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For several years I have been thinking about converting my current twin up and over garage door configuration to a single double width garage door - likely to be a sectional door manufactured by the likes of Hormann, SWS or Cardale. The stumbling block is finding a design which meets my wife's approval - our house was built in 2004 but I don't want to make the mistake of buying a graphite coloured sectional door and matching contemporary front door - it will not suit the house.




The task will involve removing the central brick pillar (and I'll stash away the removed bricks) and replace the two RSJs with a single RSJ.

My question is whether this sort of work is bread&butter for most garage door installation companies and whether anyone has a recommendation for a company in the Solihull (i.e. West Mids/South Warwickshire) area? I have seen a reference to Coventry Garage Doors who have a showroom that I may try to visit this week.

Ideally I would like to get this done within the next couple of months.

Edited by Paper Lawyer on Monday 28th August 20:50

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I've spoken to Coventry Garage Doors this morning and they can handle the replacement RSJ/removal of brick pillar. Their CheckaTrade reviews are very good. I'm going to pop into their showroom tomorrow.

http://www.cgdgaragedoorscoventry.co.uk/sectional-...

http://www.checkatrade.com/CoventryGarageDoors/Rev...

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henrycrun said:

Curious as to why the change ?

Won't 2 singles be more flexible with storage and easier to stay dry when going out in a storm ?

Edited by henrycrun on Tuesday 29th August 10:23

Not quite following the storage point? (although I don't use my garage for storing household stuff, unlike many)


Pros of double width door (for me):

- The removal of central pillar makes parking easier (otherwise a complete no-no for my wife)

- being able to position a single car in the centre of the garage makes it far easier to work on the car, sheltered from the elements

- I can access my pedal bike (my daily commuter) even with the cars in the garage (as it is held by a butterfly wall dock to the centre of the rear wall)


Pros of sectional door over existing "up and over"

- the new garage door will also be more secure and provide a better seal against the winter elements

- I can park cars on the drive almost up against the door without risk of damage caused by opening/closing garage door

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pmanson said:

We had a quote for a similar work (change from 2x single up and over doors to 1x hormann sectional roller plus all the required RSJs etc).

£3900. Circa £1500 for the steel work etc.

Remove old doors, install steel and remove pillar. Temporary block up of door with wood/old doors.

Install new doors.

Total time circa 3 days

Thank you, that's very helpful to use as a quote comparator.

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pmanson said:

We had a quote for a similar work (change from 2x single up and over doors to 1x hormann sectional roller plus all the required RSJs etc).

£3900. Circa £1500 for the steel work etc.

Remove old doors, install steel and remove pillar. Temporary block up of door with wood/old doors.

Install new doors.

Total time circa 3 days

Can I just double check your quote? Was that £3900 for the sectional door and an additional £1,500 for the steel work, or the £3,900 the total figure?

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marting said:

I dont want to jump in on this but I've just been quoted circa £2400 for a double roller, so I assume £3900 was the total.

Can I ask the brand of your roller? I'm guessing the Horsmann sectional door I have been quoted for is likely to be at the upper end of the spectrum but my quote is between £2,800 and £3,900, dependent upon choice of finish and whether I want the 8 windows in the top section. This is for a 2.25m x 4.78m sectional door.

Building work is a further £1,100.

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Just as an update, I have opted for a Novoferm sectional door - golden oak in large rib (m-rib in Hormann speak). Cheapest of the Hormann quotes (Coventry Garage Doors) wasnorth of £3k for the door and installation. Elite Garage Doors have quoted ~£2.5k (including wireless keypad for external access without transmitter) for the Novoferm door equivalent (45mm insulation rather than 42mm for the Hormann).

I will be contacting some recommended builders for a separate quote for the removal of the central pillar, installation of single RSJ and also extending the brick paving drive my another brick's length as the garage door will be rear mounted, rather than positioned within the opening (i.e. where the garage doors are currently positioned).

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Boxy100 said:

Paper Lawer,
Very interested in your efforts so far as I am in a similar position with twin doors on a double garage. From my previous enquiries some time ago, I thought this would cost around £5,000, but it looks like the prices your are being quoted will be lower.Paper Lawyer

If it's not too much trouble and assuming you have the job done, I would be most obliged by knowing to complete cost, so I have just joined this site in the hope of getting more information on this. I believe I am in a similar location B47 area?

Malcolm

Hi, happy to tell all - really pleased with the outcome.

I went for a sectional door in golden oak finish which Elite Garage Doors (based in Banbury) supplied and installed for circa £2.5k. Elite recommended a builder, Stuart Martin (07973 142 530), who they work with frequently and for a further £1.6k he removed the central pillar, replaced the two lintels with a single lintel and extended my drive by a further paver length (to take into account the new door is mounted behind the opening, rather than within it). The building work was 2 days' effort (he kindly recovered and cleaned up the bricks from the central pillar) and Elite fitted the door in a morning.

Both Elite and Stuart were very professional and I would not hesitate to recommend either. Stuart used to live in Earlswood (or perhaps it was Wythall) so knows the area well and would be happy to pop up to perform a similar job.

The garage door is Novoferm (Elite is a family business with a link to Cardale who have a JV with Novoferm, hence the competitive pricing) and was circa £1k cheaper than the best Hormann quote that I received. Both German brands are of comparable quality.

I had a wireless switch supplied for use within the garage and a wireless keypad installed ouside the garage.

If you do speak to Mark or Lorraine at Elite, tell them Craig Armstrong recommended them!

Edited by Paper Lawyer on Thursday 4th January 22:45

PS I now need to find a matching wood stain for the side gate!

Edited by Paper Lawyer on Thursday 4th January 22:46

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I see what you mean from the photo but it is a trick of the camera phone - it was a big steel and the door frame installation would have been problematic if it did. Blame the photo on the naff camera on my Galaxy A5!

Edited by Paper Lawyer on Friday 5th January 10:18