Dome cameras on a wall

[mickmcpaddy]

Today I was supposed to fit some customer supplied IP dome cameras on a house and for the life of me couldn't work out how to adjust the lens for wall mounting. The cameras are the HighWatch version of Hikvision, Not too sure of the model. I thought all cameras had 3 axis adjustment.

Admittedly I've not done much with IP cameras but all the analogue dome cameras I've fitted you just unscrewed the front half of the dome and you could twist the camera pretty much where you wanted it.

Am I right in thinking these HighWatch cameras are the older outdated Hikvision ones?

Another thing to add, the cable from the camera come out the middle rear of the camera and it wont sit flat to the wall, its rocking on the cable, I think they are just for soffit or ceiling mounting, so its either get different ones or get a wall mount bracket.

Edited by mickmcpaddy on Monday 20th November 18:21

[mickmcpaddy]

ghost83 said:

I've found with some cameras if you adjust the ring where the camera sits it's moveable but then when you screw it down it stays where you've put it, as for the wire coming through the back can a hole not be drilled through the wall for the wire to come straight inside or are you mounting the wires in conduit on a outside wall?

The camera is sitting on a brick wall, a piece of cat 5 comes out through the bricks, I was hoping to crimp a cat 5 plug on the end and plug it into the camera and screw it to the wall. I think now if he keeps the cameras it needs a wiska or some other adaptable box next to it for the connection, so an indent will nave to be drilled into the brick for the bend of the cable.

[mickmcpaddy]

It looks similar to this inside :-



The camera moves in the slot ok, it also twists round the base ok but it needs the camera to swivel 90 deg on its central axis once its pointing in the right direction, otherwise the image will be sideways, I think?

[mickmcpaddy]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

If you fit domes for a living I'm sure you'll know this...

....but domes perpendicular the wall (rather than say under a soffit) are rubbish in the rain in the dark. The IRs flare up so much all you see is white.

I've heard about the problems with rain on dome cameras mounted on walls but if you use other types like bullet cameras they can be pushed out of the way easily, even if you put an unsightly cage round them you just need a stick through the cage to move them.

[mickmcpaddy]

dmsims said:

smckeown said:

The software flips the image if required, hence it swivels only a small amount

and there is the answer!

hopefully.

[mickmcpaddy]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

worsy said:

You'll possibly need this https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/19686-hikv...

I'm running turret Hikvision cameras as they don't suffer from the rain affected images.

That's deffo help. They just don't like to be mounted front on.

The blokes ordered some, should be here tomorrow.

[mickmcpaddy]

More tales of woe. The cameras are now sorted, they are definitely only 2 axis ones, managed to find the model number and get the instructions which confirm this.
so we opted for the brackets and fitted them on Friday.

The next problem is the NVR, its up and running and recording, its this model.

http://www.cctvkits.co.uk/hiwatch-nvr-208m-a-8p-8-...

My first surprise is there is no IR remote in the box and I'm not sure if it even is remote control, the second problem is the instructions, it came with a CD rom and a quick start book but neither seem to relate to the NVR in question.

So instead of going down the pub I'm sat here trying to find some info on it, don't you just love customers who insist on buying their own gear.

[mickmcpaddy]

Initforthemoney said:

Looks like another trade sticking his fingers in to something he knows nothing about and then relying on the internet to get him out of the st.



Seriously Mr Paddy, what is your profession?

This is the problem you see ,I'll admit I don't fit cameras for a living although I know a bit more than nothing about them. I do however carry out domestic and commercial electrical installations and the client just wants you to do everything. The house we are doing at the moment is a full re-wire, alarm system, speakers in every room, networking and all the other usual stuff.

Now they could get every different trade in to do all the different jobs and have a complete nightmare of trying to coordinate all those different people, who incidentally charge a lot more than me for something that isn't that specialist. Or they just get me to do the lot. Granted they might not have the latest cutting edge all singing and dancing system but then again not many customers want a £3K Base-T matrix system to watch Coronation Street in bed.

Also I've found with other trades like alarm fitters or TV guys they might have the latest tech but the wiring infrastructure is a complete mess. At least with me every cable will be in the correct zone and all neatly done, the last pharmacy we wired every cable we put in had proper containment, the CCTV and alarm guy turned up and just threw the cables across the suspended ceiling, exposed connectors above the ceiling and the DVR just chucked on top of our data cabinet.

So who do you choose to do the job, an electrician that will do a nice neat job and be a lot cheaper or a CCTV cowboy that will do a messy job and sell you a camera well beyond your needs?


Edit : whats the problem with looking to the internet for advice, that's where 90% of the information is stored nowadays, it would be stupid to go to a library and ask if they had the instructions for a Hikvision NVR. I'm not a plumber either but I fixed a boiler the other night that a so called gas engineer couldn't, so who do you get to fix a boiler - me or the plumber? Other trades ain't all that.

Edited by mickmcpaddy on Sunday 26th November 13:43