Neighbourly dispute - Help needed

Neighbourly dispute - Help needed

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Im not Kent

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73 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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First post.... please be gentle....

Here goes.... long story short my parent has been in a dispute with a neighbour's brother who keeps parking his car in my dad's drive. Sometimes blocking him in and sometimes blocking him out. This has obviously lead to some conflict, however recently this has gotten out of hand.

The neighbours brother has now tried to run my father over with the car which turns out to be his wife's motabilty car. He's now been charged with breach of the peace.

My dad's at his wits end and doesn't know what to do next. He seen a lawyer about a harassment order but this would cost thousands without the guarantee of success. The neighbours brother is on benefits and would probably happily go to court as he'd get legal aid whereas my dad wouldn't. Even if he did get a harassment order against him one of his other clan would probably start to cause trouble.

My dad's tried to ignore him bit this hasn't worked so far.

My dad's contacted the motabilty car provider to say the car was used in a criminal activity, which may or may not have been the right course of action....time will tell.

These are the type of people who if you do nothing will take it as a sign of weakness, but if you do do something it'll probably make matters worse.

Worth also noting the police aren't interested unless a crime is committed and my dear is that this will be too late.

Happy to hear if anyone's had a similar experience and how you dealt with it.

Thanks

Im not Kent

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Friday 20th April 2018
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ZX10R NIN said:
Is it a shared drive?
Private drive, but the issue is how to deal with the neighbours brother rather than just the parking

Im not Kent

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Friday 20th April 2018
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untakenname said:
Cctv to get evidence then a folding post as above.
How oldnis your father? If he's old then as the son you may have to sort it out with other methods if the police aren't doing anything.
He's 70. Already thought about a few things myself but to be honest I have a decent job and can't afford to loose it. I heard the brother had a run in with someone else and made up charges against the person and got 2 mates to go as witnesses and the other guy got done. I might need to get an alibi sorted should anything accidently happen to him

Im not Kent

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Friday 20th April 2018
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BRISTOL86 said:
‘The police aren’t interested unless a crimes been committed’ ... since when is attempting to run someone over not a crime?!
He got changed but they're not interested any in any of the verbal stuff... apparently it's a civil matter

Im not Kent

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OddCat said:
Am I the only one not following this ? OP was asked if it was a shared drive but answered that it was a private drive. But it could be a shared private drive !

Assuming it isn't a shared private drive, and that there are no grey areas about what constitutes the OPs fathers drive, then that means the neighbours brother is simply parking on the OPs fathers drive and should be dealt with accordingly (trespass or whatever).

Anyway. The neighbours brother ? Surely if he lives there he is actially the neighbour ? Unless the neighbours brother visits all the time ?
It's not a shared drive. As he doesn't work the neighbours brother visits every day and parks his car across the pavement with the nose of the car pointing into the drive. Leaving no room for a car to get in or out. He leaves just enough space in front to let people walk past if they have to, technically he's not blocking access on the pavement. It's in a culture de sac so the back end of the car is just out on the road

Im not Kent

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Friday 20th April 2018
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StuTheGrouch said:
What does the neighbour say about all this?
The apple doesn't drop very far from the tree. Also gives out verbal abuse on a frequent basis. His abuse was also being ignored but as mentioned things have now taken a turn for the worse

Im not Kent

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Saturday 21st April 2018
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southendpier said:
Im not Kent said:
BRISTOL86 said:
‘The police aren’t interested unless a crimes been committed’ ... since when is attempting to run someone over not a crime?!
He got changed but they're not interested any in any of the verbal stuff... apparently it's a civil matter
Do you mean charged? What with?
Charged with breach of the peace for trying to run him over

Im not Kent

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Saturday 21st April 2018
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oldbanger said:
If they are in social housing, there will be staff at whatever organisation is managing the property who deal with anti social behaviour. They are often happy to pursue civil nuisance orders and even evict if necessary.
Unfortunately not, it's a bought house which the inherited

Im not Kent

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Saturday 21st April 2018
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Welshbeef said:
What a st situation OP.

I’d imagine your old man is frankly worrying about this 24/7 constantly under stress.

Options
1. Go legal - but that costs a lot and they will still be there and probably make it their reason to exist to make his life hell.
2. Sell up - but it could be a place where your dad has lives for decades so it’s frankly not an option.
3. Keep the house but rent it out and rent somewhere else it will be cost neutral but removes all stress
Option 3 is a thought.....rent it out to some scumbag who would cause the neighbour hassle

Im not Kent

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Saturday 21st April 2018
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oilbethere said:
Im not Kent said:
It's not a shared drive. As he doesn't work the neighbours brother visits every day and parks his car across the pavement with the nose of the car pointing into the drive. Leaving no room for a car to get in or out. He leaves just enough space in front to let people walk past if they have to, technically he's not blocking access on the pavement. It's in a culture de sac so the back end of the car is just out on the road
Nightmare scenario. Forget selling the house now a dispute has been logged it'll never happen. You need to step up to the plate and sort it.
Yeah, it's feeling thats the only course of action as there's nothing legal that can be done until it's too late and something drastic happens

Im not Kent

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tomsugden said:
Check if the car has an MOT, tax and insurance. If it hasn't report it.
Motabilty car, all his family has one each

Im not Kent

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Saturday 21st April 2018
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markymarkthree said:
Get your Dad on the Guinness .eek

Good luck, it must be a horrible feeling having someone giving your Dad grief, I don't know if I could control myself. frown
Cheers. I have a beautiful family and decent house etc so too much to loose. Whereas these wasters couldn't care less

Edited by Im not Kent on Saturday 21st April 09:13

Im not Kent

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Welshbeef said:
OP I recall you mentioned “Private road” - so is it a private road from he highway throughout the cul-de-sac?

Does your old man + rest of the street pay in annually for all the grass cutting tree management and cost of rolling repairs for the road?
If so isn’t this totally different to a normal street in so much as the police cannot get involved as blocking in is irrelevant S you are all “off grid” so to speak.
By private road I meant private, non shared driveway. It's ex local authority house so no factors fees etc. CCTV is en route and should arrive on Monday, hopefully that will act as some sort of deterrent

Im not Kent

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Jonesy23 said:
Welshbeef said:
Options
1. Go legal - but that costs a lot and they will still be there and probably make it their reason to exist to make his life hell.
2. Sell up - but it could be a place where your dad has lives for decades so it’s frankly not an option.
3. Keep the house but rent it out and rent somewhere else it will be cost neutral but removes all stress
You missed off option 4 which is the only effective one. 'Going legal' doesn't work on tts and the two options of running away don't work either.

This is basic basic stuff in how to deal with people and dealing with bullying aholes effectively will always follow a similar pattern. Sub contract the solution out if necessary.
Sorry, not following, what's basic about it?

Im not Kent

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Welshbeef said:
Do you have any pics to help illustrate the issue?
He's prepared to put up with the parking for a quiet life. It's the verbal abuse and someone trying to run him over he's concerned about

Im not Kent

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Welshbeef said:
Im not Kent said:
Welshbeef said:
Do you have any pics to help illustrate the issue?
He's prepared to put up with the parking for a quiet life. It's the verbal abuse and someone trying to run him over he's concerned about
OP a different possible angle I raise this as a neighbour of ours is sadly suffering from this illness - zero behaviour you have though

Altzeimers.... frequently there trying to help? Swearing shouting aggressive and older age can be a cause of this condition.
Might not be relevant at all but you never know. Sure some people are s, has it deteriorated/ or has it always been like this
The guy in question is in his early 50s, definitely not got altzeimers. He's all there and a bit more. He's just not a nice person