Hip to Gable PD on side elevation?

[Pheo]

Does anyone know if a hip to Gable on a side elevation with a 5 metre set back from the public highway counts as PD?

Planner is not happy with our dormer conversion so trying to ascertain if we can do it under PD instead, but I’m not sure how to interpret the technical guidance specifically for hip to Gable (our dormer would be rear elevation but the hip to Gable is on the side and we are a corner plot)

I do wonder if I should just have PM’d Equus but that seems a little unfair!

[Pheo]

This is what we were hoping to do. I agree about the hip to Gable concern, we were trying to go for something architecturally interesting to reduce impact and add to the streetscape - but we’ve had I think an out and out no, so we’ve pulled the dormer from the plans for now while we consider options - a barn hip being one of them.

Thanks for your input Equus will get onto the architects.

[Pheo]

Busa mav said:

"Principal elevation"

I think a hip to gable may be allowed here Equus.

Its very clear in the document that there can only be one principal elevation, even on a corner plot. I think the planners would have a difficult task proving that the side elevation should be "the" principal elevation.

I think the proposal as shown must be getting close to the allowed 50m3 , so losing or reducing the dormer size may be a requirement to beat the allowances.

For the sake of £103 and some basic drawings, I would test this one, given the OP is running out of options,

Yeah I see what you mean:



Then further down it specifically refers to principle elevation in the document regarding any increase in roof size... but it does have a vague get out about other roof planes; but refers to bay windows.

Take it the £103 is certificate of lawful development cost?

[Pheo]

Busa mav said:

Turn to page 7 for the definition of "principal elevation".

Yes, £103 is the cost to apply for a certificate.

Very interesting! Quite fun this maybe I should go work for Equus

[Pheo]

Will do guys - has gone back to the architect - I think they’ve given their consultant a bell to get their view as they don’t feel comfortable in this area (hence you guys exist!) - need to obviously give them some space.

Great spot on the row of tiles next to the dormer. We did actually have one other design which was a Gable ended dormer which I really liked and would be less of the 50m3, but definitely something to keep an eye on (trying to work out the m3 used by the hip to Gable at the moment!)

[Pheo]

Barn hip you mean?