Countax D18/50 cuts out
Discussion
Hi,
I'm in France and have a 2001 Countax D18/50 tractor/mower. Just had a new electric clutch fitted and the mechanic says all is well. However as soon as I got it back it started all right but cut out as soon as gears were engaged (lever pushed forward from park). The mechanic who's not real familiar (if at all) with Countax is mystified. Has anyone any ideas?
thanks
Brendan
I'm in France and have a 2001 Countax D18/50 tractor/mower. Just had a new electric clutch fitted and the mechanic says all is well. However as soon as I got it back it started all right but cut out as soon as gears were engaged (lever pushed forward from park). The mechanic who's not real familiar (if at all) with Countax is mystified. Has anyone any ideas?
thanks
Brendan
Many thanks
I'll have a look underneath the seat to see if anything's disconnected and a general look for any loose connections. Bit strange really, as it was working when the guy delivered it then as soon as he was gone it cut out.
The lever is the one that's in park when you start up then you push forward to engage the gears.
I'm just worried that it might be the gear box which I couldn't afford to replace.
But overall it appears that it's electrical which should be cheaply fixed when found.
I'll keep you in touch with events.
Thanks
Brendan
PS - a little confused by the use of the lever to the right of the seat - it has engaged and disengaged icons but nothing in the user guide that I can see refers to it.
I'll have a look underneath the seat to see if anything's disconnected and a general look for any loose connections. Bit strange really, as it was working when the guy delivered it then as soon as he was gone it cut out.
The lever is the one that's in park when you start up then you push forward to engage the gears.
I'm just worried that it might be the gear box which I couldn't afford to replace.
But overall it appears that it's electrical which should be cheaply fixed when found.
I'll keep you in touch with events.
Thanks
Brendan
PS - a little confused by the use of the lever to the right of the seat - it has engaged and disengaged icons but nothing in the user guide that I can see refers to it.
Had a look:
The switch wires are connected under the seat, but the seat cut off has never happened so I can't see why it should be a problem now.
However the tractor can be pushed (with it out of park) with or without the hydrostatic bypass valve pulled out. If somehow the connection has been broken inside the gearbox (it is the gear box between the rear wheels? I'm very much an amateur I'm afraid) would that make it cut out when taken out of park?
Yes, netherfield - that's the lever - thanks.
On the advice of Ariens I got rear wheel off the ground and found they turned freely in both directions when the park brake was on or off or whether the bypass lever was in or out. Ariens suggest that the key ways were not replaced by my French mechanic. I was rather confused that when wheels were off ground when I turned one wheel forwards the other wheel turned the other way!!! And I can’t see how that would effect the engine cutting out when park brake was disengaged.
Any thoughts?
Brendan
PS thanks for the offer of a PDF Etratat but I already have the (woefully inadequate) users manual – what I really need is a workshop manual but it appears that, sadly inevitably, this one doesn’t have one.
Thanks also for the picture of the right hand lever, Netherfield, – it was just out of curiosity really (it’s not mentioned in the users guide – at least I couldn’t find it). My questions refers to the park brake.
Any thoughts?
Brendan
PS thanks for the offer of a PDF Etratat but I already have the (woefully inadequate) users manual – what I really need is a workshop manual but it appears that, sadly inevitably, this one doesn’t have one.
Thanks also for the picture of the right hand lever, Netherfield, – it was just out of curiosity really (it’s not mentioned in the users guide – at least I couldn’t find it). My questions refers to the park brake.
Hi Etratat,
Initially I assumed that it was the seat cut out - even though it has never or very seldom ever worked. I thought the French mechanic had reattached wires wrongly. Anyway, I disconnected the wires from under the seat and attached them together but no good - as soon as it goes out of park the engine stops!
Should I assume the fact that the machine can be pushed with the hydrostatic lever in has nothing to do with the engine cut out when the park lever is pushed out of park? (you are supposed to pull it out to freewheel the machine).
One other thing I've noticed is that when the engine is running (in park) and I flick the cutter switch up and the cutter starts, when I turn the machine off with the key (in park) then the cutter switch should turn off - it doesn't.
All very frustrating!
Brendan
Initially I assumed that it was the seat cut out - even though it has never or very seldom ever worked. I thought the French mechanic had reattached wires wrongly. Anyway, I disconnected the wires from under the seat and attached them together but no good - as soon as it goes out of park the engine stops!
Should I assume the fact that the machine can be pushed with the hydrostatic lever in has nothing to do with the engine cut out when the park lever is pushed out of park? (you are supposed to pull it out to freewheel the machine).
One other thing I've noticed is that when the engine is running (in park) and I flick the cutter switch up and the cutter starts, when I turn the machine off with the key (in park) then the cutter switch should turn off - it doesn't.
All very frustrating!
Brendan
Hi Etratat,
Many thanks for good exact information - though somewhat i the dark as to exactly what a microswitch is, I have enough info to continue my explorations and will keep you in touch. My main problem is resisting the temptation to bash the bugger (the tractor not the mechanic) with my sledgehammer! Still, I am convinced that the machine simply cannot be too complicated (no computer thank God!) to fix.
The mechanic said he would come yesterday with a colleague "who knows more", but didn't - hopefully they'll appear today.. Am prepared for much Gallic shrugs and hand flapping and little more.
In the sticks here and the electrics been out for 16 hours - tragedy in the ice box - time to break out the booze!
cheers
Brendan
Many thanks for good exact information - though somewhat i the dark as to exactly what a microswitch is, I have enough info to continue my explorations and will keep you in touch. My main problem is resisting the temptation to bash the bugger (the tractor not the mechanic) with my sledgehammer! Still, I am convinced that the machine simply cannot be too complicated (no computer thank God!) to fix.
The mechanic said he would come yesterday with a colleague "who knows more", but didn't - hopefully they'll appear today.. Am prepared for much Gallic shrugs and hand flapping and little more.
In the sticks here and the electrics been out for 16 hours - tragedy in the ice box - time to break out the booze!
cheers
Brendan
Hi Etretat,
Sorry for the delay - the man (actually men) did turn up - one lifted the machine on its side while the other delved into its workings with a spanner - end result it worked! Then the cutters didn't work - thank God they were still there! More lifting and the taking away of a long connecting rod - an hour later everything was working!!!
Sadly today for the second time the cutter blades belt came off! A mystery - perhaps the belt needs replacing (looks a bit frayed) or perhaps the spring does. Anyway as I write the wife is gaily cutting the lawn and all, for the moment is well! Thanks a lot for your interest and, again, sorry for the delay in response.
Brendan
Sorry for the delay - the man (actually men) did turn up - one lifted the machine on its side while the other delved into its workings with a spanner - end result it worked! Then the cutters didn't work - thank God they were still there! More lifting and the taking away of a long connecting rod - an hour later everything was working!!!
Sadly today for the second time the cutter blades belt came off! A mystery - perhaps the belt needs replacing (looks a bit frayed) or perhaps the spring does. Anyway as I write the wife is gaily cutting the lawn and all, for the moment is well! Thanks a lot for your interest and, again, sorry for the delay in response.
Brendan
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