Tarmac Repairs?

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paulrockliffe

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Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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I've had a scaffolder drop about 20 poles onto my drive from 5 metres up, they punched holes all over the place. Obviously furious, but as the holes are relatively small, is there something I can use to repair them?

Thanks!

paulrockliffe

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paulwirral said:
The scaffolders insurance or the money you owe him .
Well yeah, though I doubt they're insured for being an idiot.

But I still need something to fix it with, I don't want to dig more out as it'll just make the repairs more visible, so something that'll fill in and stay put that's black. Resin? Something else?

Ta

paulrockliffe

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Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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The cold lay tarmac I think you mean won't work well I don't think, it really needs more depth to have enough to bind to and it usually doesn't last well.

I'll use it if I have to, but really want to avoid more digging as it'll make the repairs more visible.

It wasn't Alan, some guy from Blaydon

paulrockliffe

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Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Probably, can I buy it by the pint though?

paulrockliffe

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Just thought I'd update this fking saga. Seeing as I can't do any fking work this weekend because of more bullst from this useless st. It has been a complete saga from start to finish, I've had little choice but to carry on with it because if we hadn't we'd still have no roof and we've been in a bit of a race against the weather.

Can't remember whether I posted any of this earlier, but this was supposed to be a three sided scaffold with the middle side spanning a conservatory. Watertight roof on top, all in on the Wednesday ready for starting work on the Friday. Fairly simple.

The st started on the Wednesday morning when he announced that he couldn't span the Conservatory because the electricity cable that he'd asked about the previous week was still in fact an electricity cable. Apparently it needed shrouding, so the end couldn't be done. Wednesday one side was 2/3rds done.

Thursday he rocked up at lunchtime, no way it was going to be ready. Nice one. Then about 2pm he said something about going out to get the roofing material. In the end I went for it because I actually wanted the scaffold up and ready, but it turned out whatever it was he'd decided to use doesn't exist within 90 miles of here. By the time I'd got back he'd buggered off.

Friday, phone off all day. Some bullst about his van breaking down. Couldn't work Saturday as waiting for a part to arrive, or Sunday as he had a garage fitting the part. All bullst. So Monday, me and my Dad have been sat around for three days doing fk all while the last of the autumn good weather ebs away. Tuesday afternoon we finally have a roof.

The most god awful roof you'll ever see, nothing like what was requested, but it was make it work or everything was off until the New Year. I should have had the lot taken down and told them to fk off, that was a big mistake.

Anyway, for your amusement:



So instead of 4 days with 2 of us, my Dad had to go home that evening and I then had the rest of the week to build a roof ready for a team of roofers to get it slated etc the following week. Felt doable, weather looked OK. What ensued was the most hideous few days of my life, I'm not going back there again.

It poured down on Friday, the canopy was complete ste. Obviously. I manged to puncture it strategically so the water drained onto the rest of the roof and ultimately into my shower, then the weather was fine until the day after the slates were all on. Phew. By that time most of it had blown off and he'd been back to fix it 'properly' twice.

Anyway, back to the scaffold, the electricity cable had been covered before the rest fo the scaffold was done, so the end should have been sorted. It still isn't. Numbnuts hadn't remembered to check the levels of both sides it needed to tie into, so it can't be done without dismantling half of whats there already. And the top lift on one side was missing so the roofers couldn't work until that had been fitted.

Having got past this, I was left wondering whether to get the last bits done on one side - guttering - and sack it all off and get another scaffolder to sort the end and side so I can put up the external insulation or just persist with this as half of it's there. Plan was to get the guttering done *now* and then get that side down and decide.

Oh wait, backup a second; that missing top lift was fitted at exactly the same height as the gutter would go and butted right up to the wall, so the guttering that was going up last weekend has already been put back a week while this idiot came to lower the lift. Was due Saturday, turned up Tuesday.

Because I spent most of the week in bed ill I've only looked at what was done now, I mean it's hard to get removing a lift wrong, so anyway, you probably think you can see where this is going. Obviously it is going in that direction, as I wouldn't be typing now if it isn't, but WTF.

The lift hasn't been removed, or lowered. The two options I generously offered as I can work off the lower lift if the boards are put back. The scaffold poles have been slid back and the last board removed. To do that all the stuff holding the boards down have been removed. I've been left with this to work off:







That's an 18" gap to the wall and an 8m drop. Regardless of that, the lift is still in the way for fixing the guttering boards on so I couldn't even do it if I was fking stupid.

And he's dropped scaffold tubes on that side too so the road has been damaged as well.

Not sure what my point is really, other than I've nothing else to do other than rant, but there you go.

How toothless are the HSE if I report all this ste?

paulrockliffe

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Saturday 16th November 2019
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The hanging beam is just what had been done when he realised he couldn't fix it to the otherside because the heights are wrong and gave up.

Of course he could have fixed it but he'd have had to remove the first lift and rebuild it at the right height. At the time I just needed him to do the stuff to let me get the roof on before the rain, so it ended up like that.

I read the HSE stuff on putting scaffold up and picked up on loads that's wrong. I suspect he hasn't sorted a permit either, what are the potential consequences there?

This is so annoying, on the one hand I want it all taking away asap, I already have someone sorted to redo the two sides I need to get the external insulation on. On the other I literally just need an hour to get the guttering on that side, but can't see I can do it without either getting it changed again or sacking him off and having the third side rebuilt again. FFS

paulrockliffe

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Saturday 16th November 2019
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This:

https://selfbuildportal.org.uk/healthandsafety/

Is my understanding of the application of CDM2015, is it wrong?

paulrockliffe

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Saturday 16th November 2019
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Andeh1 said:
Withhold payment until rectified /completed?
That's been the state of play since it all started, the problem is more the impact all this has had on the rest of the project and how I keep things on track.

As it stands I have a narrow time-frame starting next weekend to get the external insulation and cladding on before it starts getting more complicated because of other stuff. It's obviously tight to get the scaffold down and new up next week given this scaffolder's track record and that the new scaffolder will want to know the old is down before scheduling this in around his other work.

paulrockliffe

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Saturday 16th November 2019
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Aluminati said:
paulrockliffe said:
This:

https://selfbuildportal.org.uk/healthandsafety/

Is my understanding of the application of CDM2015, is it wrong?
You are the client.
Ok, so what have I not done, struggling to see something I should have done.

paulrockliffe

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Sunday 17th November 2019
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Aluminati said:
paulrockliffe said:
Ok, so what have I not done, struggling to see something I should have done.
“ Plan, manage and monitor construction work under their control so that it is carried out without risks to health and safety”

Would probably be where they (HSE) would start. You have accepted that scaffold and allowed other trades to work from it ? Were you given any form of handover certificate/is there a scafftag on it ?

Not having a dig, just trying to advise what avenue they would approach from.

Although their current favourite is trades pulling hoodies over their hardhats and wearing earphones rolleyes

Last month, it was cutting chases without the correct extraction equipment.
I don't have time to look over this in detail now, but my understanding is that it's a question of whether I controlled the way construction work took place. I didn't, I don't think, I asked a roofing company to slate and lead a new roof once the rafters were in. They engaged a scaffolder (and a bricklayer) directly for their purposes and dictated their own requirements for how they needed to be able to work, but didn't dictate how the scaffold should be built. I've not done any work from the scaffold, I don't think I've actually even stepped on it, everything I've done was from inside and prior to the roofers becoming involved.

I guess the waters are a bit muddied as all the issues have meant the guttering wasn't able to be done because I didn't have time to prepare the timber, so I now do need to use the scaffold. And there was an intention for the scaffold to remain in place while I did the insulation and cladding work, but that isn't now the case.

The link I posted states, "The self-builder is entitled to expect contractors to plan, manage and monitor their own work in compliance with the CDM regs." I took that to mean that I don't need to know about scaffold regs (regardless of whether I engage directly or not) because I can expect the scaffolder to know the rules of their industry and can expect them to follow those rules.

paulrockliffe

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Sunday 17th November 2019
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speedyguy said:
It's right though biglaugh
https://youtu.be/X8qFD2s0Fwg
That looks ace, got a torrent?