Any idea how much a kitchen can cost?

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Sorry for the very basic image, but anyone got any idea at all how much one should expect a kitchen of this size to cost? I know that people will say “we’ll you can spend 75k just on a marble surface” but I mean in general what would a “normal” ballpark be? Layout vaguely shown below, starting from scratch (ripping out old kitchen). We talking 5k, 10k or don’t be ridiculous that’ll be at least 20k?



I don't really know how it works when you get quotes in terms of dishwasher, fridges, wine fridges and so on.....are they all separate purchases, or do kitchen places include them?

As an example I looked at this: https://www.wrenkitchens.com/kitchens/country-draw...

But it's not immediately clear to me if this is a case of no matter what size your room is, that's how much it'll be, or is that a guide for a certain number of units etc

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DavidY said:

When starting from scratch do you mean, new flooring, electrics, lights, etc or just kitchen units and appliances?

I think I'd want to put a new floor down.....electric in terms of lights not actually sure, I'll say no for now we'll keep what's there. I imagine we can maybe work with the existing socket points as well.

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smn159 said:

Doing any of it yourself or getting someone in to do all of it, including plumbing, electrics, disposal of old kitchen - or somewhere in between?

Doing it yourself is massively different price wise to a turn key job

I'd certainly rip everything that's there now out myself, but in terms of actually getting the kitchen built and fitted I don't think that's something I could do myself, so that's where the costs will spiral I guess?

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Ok thanks guys, that's good to know, as I really had no frame of reference apart from thinking to myself that "surely fitting an entire kitchen is going to cost the earth"

£10k or so obviously isn't cheap, but good to know it's not like £35k!

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hotchy said:

Well mines just complete came in at

Flooring - £525 (but I put it down and it done the entire downstairs not just kitchen. on offer at costco at the time)

Kitchen units incl sink, and splash backs all round, worktop - £4900 take away £80 for spares returned

Tap - £70

Cooker £900
Hood - £200 ish
Fridge - £1100.
Glass back behind cooker £60
Plumbing for new fridge, and gas for cooker and sink, taps, dishwasher plumbing £50 mates rates.
Electrical work £100 mates rates. Loads of new sockets and repositioning, lights and under cabinet stuff.
Fancy light fitting - £70
£30 LED things under cabinets.
Kitchen fitter £1000. (Never had a mate this time)
Washing machine - (free birthday present but £400)
Dishwasher was free.

Probably other stuff iv forgot. Soon adds up. I remember thinking I'd get it done for £3k

So from scratch about that.

Edit. Paint and the ceiling got plastered. So another 200.

Mines is about 3.5x4m

Edited by hotchy on Thursday 23 July 15:17

Very helpful mate, thank you.

Flooring easy to do yourself, or are you quite good at that sort of thing already? Fitting flooring and carpets has always scared me as I imagine it's so easy to get slightly wrong?

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mike_e said:

Proverbial length of string, how long does one want it? Just fitted a new kitchen into a property I'm refurbishing prior to reselling. Kitchens help sell houses so went for a better spec without blowing the budget. We went for a mid range kitchen (Nobilia) and all new NEFF integrated appliances (2 x Oven, Hob, F/Freezer, Washing Machine, Concealed extractor) with Blamco sink and taps and Laminate worktops. Galley kitchen with 2 x 3.6m runs. Supply only for everything was 10.5k. Did my own installation, plumbing and used the existing electrics apart from new downlighters and LED cabinet lighting. New Grade 5 porcelain tile floor added another £600 or so.Quote for fitting was about the same price as the cabinets so decided on DIY route.

Could have gone down the budget route and bought Wickes off-the-shelf stuff and Beko appliances and the price would have dropped to well under half. Incidentally, Wren quoted for the same job and it was £26k!! To be fair they then discounted everything heavily but still £14k without installation.

Yeah I agree it can be the length of string conversation, but even what you've said above gives some sort of idea of the ranges that can be involved. I've heard of people spending thousands on one radiator and a couple of taps, so of course it can go nuts if you let it. I guess I'd probably be looking to go around £15k or so which sounds like it won't be a nasty cheap looking end product?

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V8RX7 said:

The basic kitchen - ie excluding flooring, plastering, electrics, white goods etc depending on spec / supplier £1500 upwards

Fitting £500 upwards

I'd expect to do everything for probably sub £3k outside of London (but I'm tight)

Ok thanks, I assume that's pretty much just cabinets, sink and fittings and work tops really then?

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Again thanks guys, great food for thought here, and still relieved no one has said I'd be spending £40k+, so that's good peace of mind already.

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DavidY said:

Spend a few hours in the diy kitchens planner

https://planner.diy-kitchens.com/

You can put in appliances, or buy them separately

That will give you a good guide of a 'decent' quality kitchen, yes you can go cheaper (flatpack) and yes you can definitely go a lot more expensive!

Then add a figure for flooring/splashback/electrics/plumbing/etc £3K wouldn't be an unreasonable number.

Now thats the price for supply so you will still need someone to fit (but its really not that hard) - so perhaps another £3K-£5K, depending if they were doing flooring, tiling, painting, plumbing, electrics, ripping out old kitchen, etc, etc

I fitted ours last October, to give you a guide my units (diy kitchems) came in at £6.5K (the Wren equivalent was over 10K and IMO not as good quality)

We then added Worktops (Quartz) £3K fitted
Glass Spashback £800 (fitted)
Appliances (Bosch Stema Oven, Bosch Combi Oven, Bosch Hob, Bosch Warming Drawer, Bosch Extractor Fan, Full Height Larder Fridge) £5K
New (posh) Radiator £350 fitted
Electrics inc new lights £1400
Plumbing £200 bits

It took me about 15 man days to do all the fitting work inc laying new floor!

Just started playing around with this thing, I see what you mean by take a few hours, certainly looks like it'll take me a bit of time.
I'm guessing you had all your measurements perfectly sorted, no room for error? Did you just spend ages choosing exactly what you wanted using this builder then pretty much clicked "buy" and that was your kitchen! Did you go and see anything in a showroom etc?

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DavidY said:

I built it online (yes with exact measurements othwise its pointless), then because I wanted to feel the quality, we drove to sunny Pontefract one Sunday, this was absolutely worthwhile as not only did we get a better understanding of the unit configurations, but also its much better to see the colours in the flesh.

They have loads of PCs dotted about in the showroom, so you can go online and mod your plan there and then, we also had some assistance from their staff. We went for lunch in a local pub, £16 for Sunday Lunch and Drinks for 2, and then went back to showroom and bought 3 sample sections of doors, so we could see the colours in our own house (these eventually became my trial pieces for handle drilling tests, routing, etc!!)

Subsequently we made some mods to our plan, and with some telephone assistance added some additional panels, so that I could mount an end panel under the wall cupboards rather than have a pelmut and recess LED lights into it.

The units were delivered on time, and any issues we had however small were quickly rectified, a very good company to deal with.

(Sorry I forgot about £800 worth of sink and tap on that price schedule)

Very pleased for my first kitchen effort (and probably my last as I'm 57!!)




Picture before glass splashback added along far wall

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WOW! That is amazing mate, thanks for sharing. It's certainly inspired me look into going down that route rather than wasting money on getting someone else to do everything....had no idea a 'novice' can achieve such good results.

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When putting it together yourself is it just a bit like giant lego? I imagine the really skilled work is the joinings at the wall that the splash back covered done by a pro?

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Thanks again guys for the replies, lots of food for thought. I'm probably a few months off completion and actually moving in, so good time to research and asses my options. I do love the idea of doing as much as I can myself, I'm by no means useless at DIY, but an entire kitchen might be a step too far.....finding myself quickly out of my depth sounds frustrating and possibly a disaster!

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Is it naive to think I could choose my budget, go to one of the kitchen suppliers and get them to work to it and it won’t go over budget? Or is it like building works where everything goes well over budget and over time and nothing you can do about it?

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Mark Benson said:

One visit to a Wren showroom was enough to send me to the DIY Kitchens website, we ended up with a nicer (IMO) kitchen for half the price once all the 'extras' had been taken into account by Wren.

OP, I fitted ours myself, with the help of our joiner for a day to do the worktop (we were skint at the time and went for a white melamine top rather than stone) but the actual installation, including plumbing is just a case of fitting stuff together and making sure everything is level.

I assume the plumbing will be fairly straight forward assuming I'd be putting things in a similar place to where they are now?

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ettore said:

It’s truly staggering the difference in quotes on professionally fitted kitchen’s. I’m utterly crap at DIY and had no option when we did ours a couple of years ago.

Admittedly, it’s a swish hand built kitchen but the difference between the lowest and highest cost (for the same design and spec’) was over £100k!! In the end it made sense to use a firm in North Yorkshire who built and then installed the kitchen even though we’re in Berkshire..

£100k? Ouch! Was that including some seriously pricey things like high end fittings and marble counter tops etc?

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ettore said:

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£100k? Ouch! Was that including some seriously pricey things like high end fittings and marble counter tops etc?

Yes, I’m fussy about good quality fittings (even taps have to ‘feel’ right!) and we had a marble island which wasn’t cheap.

It was the massive difference that struck me though - we specified most of it so they were basically like for like.

Any photos? I imagine you've ended up with something pretty awesome!

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I've become addicted to the room building tools ha ha

Plodding along with the DIY Kitchen one (the 3D view is annoyingly clunky and hard to navigate though) and just had a crack at the B&Q bathroom builder as well. £1,500 for a whole bathroom at B&Q sounds rather cheap to me, but maybe bathrooms are cheaper than I thought?

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Can anyone who has used the DIY kitchen planning tool tell me why, even though I've set the units to Gloss White, the whole thing looks very much grey! The walls as well, set them to white, but it all looks grey!

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Williamfox said:

I would also like to know at least the approximate cost before starting the repair

Boy, this is a blast from the past.
The design certainly changed a hell of a lot, and many many times!
Here's how it ended up:

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LocoBlade said:

bristolbaron said:

Extraction has proved to be a bit of a problem due to the length and shape of run to an outside wall not being considered before the roof went on. We now only have space for undersized extraction or a recirculating hood.

Current front runner is this:


We won’t be going with lamona appliances, they’re just the ones specced, but everything else is only going to increase the cost. I need to get Howdens down significantly or go elsewhere!

I'd be very skeptical about how well a recirculating ceiling fan will work, we've got an expensive 90cm ceiling fan over our Island with a whopping 6" duct to vent outside of and that's nowhere near as good at extracting than the budget 60cm wall mounted extractor between two units using a crappy corrugated pipe in our old kitchen, simply because of the physics involved of open all 4 sides and being further away from the steam source. Add in the additional restrictions of recirculating filters and I can't see it being that great.

Looks bloody MILES away from the hob in that photo as well! I can't imagine that doing much extraction at all.