Mate erected fence backwards
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During the furlough period a mate set about renewing his fences.
He's used the triangular rail bolted into concrete posts and taken some time making sure the boards look great.
The only thing is, he's done it the wrong way round with all the boards facing his place rather than on the outside following the old fence line.
It's taken a while but his neighbours are beginning to complain and saying what they think of him..
Is there a good way to fix the triangular rails on the wrong side of the posts and rebuild it?
Pulling the concrete posts out and replanting them may be difficult!
He's used the triangular rail bolted into concrete posts and taken some time making sure the boards look great.
The only thing is, he's done it the wrong way round with all the boards facing his place rather than on the outside following the old fence line.
It's taken a while but his neighbours are beginning to complain and saying what they think of him..
Is there a good way to fix the triangular rails on the wrong side of the posts and rebuild it?
Pulling the concrete posts out and replanting them may be difficult!
mikeveal said:
They're called arris rails.
It is convention & good manners to put the good side of your fence towards your neighbours. You are not compelled to do so.
Isnt it more than convention but because the fence boards follow the line of the boundary and the posts are firmly on your land?It is convention & good manners to put the good side of your fence towards your neighbours. You are not compelled to do so.
By putting the fence on the wrong side of the posts he's given them batches of 6ft x6inches of his garden?
The question was whats the best way to rectify it if you decide you want the fence on the other side of the posts after all?
kryten22uk said:
As seen above, everyone has their view of which way the fence should be erected, as your mate has also found out. But in attempt to start discussion on your actual question regarding options to change...
Its not clear from your OP exactly what has been used. But my understanding/experience of closeboard fencing is that the posts have rectangular mortice holes, and hence the arris rails are not triangle shaped when they slot into the post mortice. Therefore you could in theory turn them over. However, you cant actually slide the arris rails out once the posts are set in the ground. You could cut one end of the arris rail right at the post to remove. If it were a timber post then you could use a simple triangular arris fixing to reattach once flipped over. But that might be difficult to attach to a concrete post.
That said, the OP refers to the arris rails being 'bolted' to the posts, which is not clear what exactly that setup is.
found this image online but it has rectangular recessesIts not clear from your OP exactly what has been used. But my understanding/experience of closeboard fencing is that the posts have rectangular mortice holes, and hence the arris rails are not triangle shaped when they slot into the post mortice. Therefore you could in theory turn them over. However, you cant actually slide the arris rails out once the posts are set in the ground. You could cut one end of the arris rail right at the post to remove. If it were a timber post then you could use a simple triangular arris fixing to reattach once flipped over. But that might be difficult to attach to a concrete post.
That said, the OP refers to the arris rails being 'bolted' to the posts, which is not clear what exactly that setup is.
I need to go and see if theyre the same
Example from tinterweb
If I suddenly had all those concrete posts in my garden when before I had a smooth fence, I'd be unhappy too.
Did your mate take wooden posts out and put concrete in?you dont need to ask that 
Would it be good to bolt a single board to the nut side of the posts to make them look wooden?
EggsBenedict said:
mstrbkr said:
Would help if they’d got the correct thickness for the arris rails in that one, to match the recesses in the posts. That’s really untidy.
And trimmed those bolts too. If I suddenly had all those concrete posts in my garden when before I had a smooth fence, I'd be unhappy too.
Did your mate take wooden posts out and put concrete in?
Would it be good to bolt a single board to the nut side of the posts to make them look wooden?
mstrbkr said:
Pericoloso said:
Someone has to get the crappy side with all the fixings n stuff.
I prefer the panels to butt up against the sides of the posts so everyone gets the same 
Do you run bolts all the way through those for side fixings?
DickyC said:
IIRC good side of 'your' fence facing your neighbour was law until enough people didn't bother for the law to be repealed. We gave our neighbour the good side of our fence but the neighbour the other side gave themselves the good side so we have the backs of both fences.
DickyC said:
AJL308 said:
Nope, never as far as I know. Feel free to provide a link.
The very basic legal problem you have is that the "best" side is purely a personal opinion. Who says any particular side is "better" than the other? It's something you can't define in law, especially given the numerous different ways in which you can build a fence. If the fence is on your side then the neighbour is essentially complaining about the view and there is no right in law to a specific view, or indeed any view, as far as I am aware.
Apologies. It looks like you're right; not law but convention to have the posts on your side. A convention now largely ignored. The very basic legal problem you have is that the "best" side is purely a personal opinion. Who says any particular side is "better" than the other? It's something you can't define in law, especially given the numerous different ways in which you can build a fence. If the fence is on your side then the neighbour is essentially complaining about the view and there is no right in law to a specific view, or indeed any view, as far as I am aware.
there is a reason for it - the line of the fence boards follows the legal line of the boundary. The posts are safe and secure your side.
If you erect it backwards with the fence posts still in your ground.,the neighbour gets nice 6ft x6" pieces of ground to plant up.
Unless the posts and fence are in line on the boundary which is not we're talking about here
dirky dirk said:
Gripper rods always break up,
better with the plastic pigeon spikes
£10 per metre?better with the plastic pigeon spikes
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Defender-Bird-Pigeon-Spik...
Plastic pigeon - install every 6ft?
https://www.a1decoy.co.uk/product/plastic-pigeon-f...
dirky dirk said:
No
i was thinking of these,
the gripper rods always seem to de laminate themselves
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0046ZCLQQ/ref=sspa_dk...
That should further endear the neighbours i was thinking of these,
the gripper rods always seem to de laminate themselves
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0046ZCLQQ/ref=sspa_dk...
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