Is this flue position illegal??
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We have had an offer accepted on a house that has just had a new boiler fitted.
Went for a look at the outside yesertday and noticed the new flue exit seems to have been installed by a monkey.
That seems to have been gobbed in there while peeing with rain as it's crumbling away already.
That flu is sited in the driveway down the side of the house at about 1.2m from the ground - the drive is 2.5m wide. Am I right to say this should be at 2.1m minimum and also should not be less than 300mm away from a opening in the brickwork, which it isn't?
What do you learned folk reckon?
Went for a look at the outside yesertday and noticed the new flue exit seems to have been installed by a monkey.
That seems to have been gobbed in there while peeing with rain as it's crumbling away already.
That flu is sited in the driveway down the side of the house at about 1.2m from the ground - the drive is 2.5m wide. Am I right to say this should be at 2.1m minimum and also should not be less than 300mm away from a opening in the brickwork, which it isn't?
What do you learned folk reckon?
Thanks for the reponse but I'm still a little confused.
Just looking through Guide to the Condensing Boiler Installation Assessment Procedure for Dwellings
http://www.idhee.org.uk/ExceptionsGuide.pdf
If you look at page 11 it states the terminal needs to be sited above 2.1m in an access route or patio and also should be >2.5m from any car parking space.
Just to clarify. Drive is on the left of the gable end (like that pic on p11) and is 2.5m to the boundary wall. It's mounted about 1200mm high in this space and if you pull the car into this area you either run the risk of knocking the bloody thing off the wall or having exhaust gases pumped out onto the car.
I'm happy to be put right though, I might be barking up the wrong tree entirely. No wonder gas engineers command so much brass, it's a minefield.
Just looking through Guide to the Condensing Boiler Installation Assessment Procedure for Dwellings
http://www.idhee.org.uk/ExceptionsGuide.pdf
If you look at page 11 it states the terminal needs to be sited above 2.1m in an access route or patio and also should be >2.5m from any car parking space.
Just to clarify. Drive is on the left of the gable end (like that pic on p11) and is 2.5m to the boundary wall. It's mounted about 1200mm high in this space and if you pull the car into this area you either run the risk of knocking the bloody thing off the wall or having exhaust gases pumped out onto the car.
I'm happy to be put right though, I might be barking up the wrong tree entirely. No wonder gas engineers command so much brass, it's a minefield.
Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 1st March 10:53
Henry-F said:
No the flue doesn't have to be 2.1m from ground level.
I am not a plumber so please do not rely on my post for information. Worcester produce this which might help. Again please do not rely on it or take it as anything other than a guide. To be safe consult a registered professional.
Flue location guide
Henry
Cheers Henry.I am not a plumber so please do not rely on my post for information. Worcester produce this which might help. Again please do not rely on it or take it as anything other than a guide. To be safe consult a registered professional.
Flue location guide
Henry
That link states this though
• *Minimum distance of the flue terminal from above ground is 2,100mm where directed to a public footpath, private access route or a frequently used area and 2,500mm from a car parking area.
I've bolded the bit that makes it relevant. It is technically a car parking area.
I'm sure there are some qualified Corgi chaps on here. I'm sure they'll come along in a bit.
Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 1st March 11:17
Engineer1 said:
How about getting a local gas fitter to look it over, you may as well get the whole system checked incase any shortcuts have been made.
On to that. I have a pal training in gas installtion at the moment. He's going to use my job as part of his training (get's signed off by his tutor or something).Always useful to get opinions off here though.
So are these references I've found to the 2.1m height thing in a walkway/parking area just guidance rather than the law?
Also, the installation looks a right mess, I don't think it's unreasonable to request it taken out and done again with a little more finesse, and a guard cover. That or a small reduction in the agreed sale price.
Also, the installation looks a right mess, I don't think it's unreasonable to request it taken out and done again with a little more finesse, and a guard cover. That or a small reduction in the agreed sale price.
Si 330 said:
Yes I got your message thanks, just drop me a line if and when you want further info.
In answer to your question yes, it doesn't comply the current regs.
As you have stated you either go for a reduction on agreed price or they have the work done to the correct regs.
The proposed extension is it going to be to the rear or side? if side push for a reduction as it will be moved anyway.
Cheers mate. I've already drafted the layout in autocad, going back on sat for a more detailed measure up. Intention is to extend out the side and part of the rear as well.In answer to your question yes, it doesn't comply the current regs.
As you have stated you either go for a reduction on agreed price or they have the work done to the correct regs.
The proposed extension is it going to be to the rear or side? if side push for a reduction as it will be moved anyway.
Going to have to resite the boiler in the loft.
I will get in touch when we exchange contracts, no onward chain so should be fairly quick
. I want to get cracking and have it finished asap.
Bit of a bump.
Any gas installers about? Please read the above ^^^
Jesus, it's like pulling teeth this one.
The vendor has issued my solicitor a signed off gas installation after stating he would get the flue looked at and modfified accordingly. It's not been touched.
I've reported it to Gas Safe but they won't come out and inspect it as I don't own the property yet and did not comission the work.
When I do own the property they still won't come out as I didn't comission the work. If it's wrong it'll be picked up by whomever services the boiler and any rectification will be down to me £££££
So if I die from carbon monoxide poisoining in the next 12months it's my fault!!
Tw@tting boll0x!!
Any gas installers about? Please read the above ^^^
Jesus, it's like pulling teeth this one.
The vendor has issued my solicitor a signed off gas installation after stating he would get the flue looked at and modfified accordingly. It's not been touched.
I've reported it to Gas Safe but they won't come out and inspect it as I don't own the property yet and did not comission the work.
When I do own the property they still won't come out as I didn't comission the work. If it's wrong it'll be picked up by whomever services the boiler and any rectification will be down to me £££££
So if I die from carbon monoxide poisoining in the next 12months it's my fault!!
Tw@tting boll0x!!
Edited by dave_s13 on Wednesday 7th April 12:54
Busamav said:
Just ask for the vendor to have the boiler serviced by a suitably qualified Gas Safe " engineer " with a specific request for him to comment on the flue position.
That should throw up any problems for a cost under a £100.
Trouble is the thing was installed all of 6 weeks ago. It has a fresh certifcate of conformity (or whatever they're called) and as far as he's concerned that's that.That should throw up any problems for a cost under a £100.
I've asked our solicitor to request he either:-
1. report the issue to Gas Safe for inspection
2 Gets the flue moved/modified
3 £500 off sale price
I want him to notify Gas Safe - that way there is no cost involved to anyone but the installer - who should have done it right first time around.
This is of course assuming I have made a correct assumtion about the installation being incorrect.
koolchris99 said:
Ours is here..
Next to a path,
not 2.1m
Next to a window..
But yours is next to a grass verge, not a path. Mine is discharging at waste height into the access down the side of the house, and is unguarded.Next to a path,
not 2.1m
Next to a window..
Is yours 300mm away from that window opening? If not then it's not installed as per regs.
TBH I'd be happy if he just stuck a 90deg elbow on the thing and a vertical lenth of flue so it discharges away from where we will be walking past and/or parking the car.
I might be blowing it out of proportion a bit but if it's wrong, it's bloody wrong.
dave_s13 said:
Busamav said:
Just ask for the vendor to have the boiler serviced by a suitably qualified Gas Safe " engineer " with a specific request for him to comment on the flue position.
That should throw up any problems for a cost under a £100.
Trouble is the thing was installed all of 6 weeks ago. It has a fresh certifcate of conformity (or whatever they're called) and as far as he's concerned that's that.That should throw up any problems for a cost under a £100.
I've asked our solicitor to request he either:-
1. report the issue to Gas Safe for inspection
2 Gets the flue moved/modified
3 £500 off sale price
I want him to notify Gas Safe - that way there is no cost involved to anyone but the installer - who should have done it right first time around.
This is of course assuming I have made a correct assumtion about the installation being incorrect.
Surprised really. I didn't want any money back, I'd have been happt for him to contact Gas Safe. It would have cost him nothing!!??
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