One mark on dogs nose, more on other side overnight?

One mark on dogs nose, more on other side overnight?

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robbocop33

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Saturday 26th May 2018
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Yesterday my dog (Siberian Husky) had a single red mark up just past her nose, area around it slightly swollen.
She is an awful dog for biting at wasps, bees in mid air, keep telling her off for it! Anyway, thinking it mught be a sting i just slightly scratched the surface hoping i'd pull out anything stuck in it.
Next morning she wakes up ad there's marks at the other side of the bridge of her nose?? First pic is of initial mark, next pic is over night pic. Had her at vets today, waste of time as usual, no idea what it was, put some of this miniscule tube of 40 quid cream on it, bring her back on Wednesday. Anyone any ideas?
We do have cats incidentally but she gets on great with them all and they haven't scratched her or anything.


robbocop33

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Saturday 26th May 2018
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HTP99 said:
Colleague's mums beagle had something very similar looking on her nose after she had an altercation with a hedgehog, it got very infected and took ages to heal.
Funny that, was going to mention there have been hedgehogs going around!Seen a couple.

robbocop33

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Saturday 26th May 2018
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This seems to be getting worse everytime we look at it, we were given Isaderm gel, is this stuff any good? Think i'd prefer antibiotics of some type if it 'has' been a hedgehog.

robbocop33

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Saturday 26th May 2018
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Turn7 said:
Vet to be safe....
We've already been as i mentioned above. Just called vet again, which is closed now butwas put through to an emergency vet, just says this Isaderm cream has steriod in it and it will make wounds look worse initially, if it gets worse i've to take her to see this emergency vet. Got my Wednesday follow up appointment brought forward to Monday as well.

robbocop33

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Saturday 26th May 2018
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Here's a pic of it tonight, it's just getting more aggressive looking and redder/bloody?

robbocop33

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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Going through to the vet again today. We were told to put this Isoderm gel on this for 5 days, yet i just read on a vets forum you are 'not' meant to put this gel on open wounds?? Anyone advise about this? I'm going to insist on getting antibiotics today, which i feel i should have been given in the first place.
As you can see in the pic below wound is definetly open now!

robbocop33

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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Incidentally in answer to an earlier question there are no other marks on her entire body, which i suppose bodes well towards the fact she's just poked her nose in towards something she shouldn't have.
There were 'rumours' about Alabama rot in our arwa, but no cases. I think that seems to show first signs on the lower half of the body first, and effects the dogs general health.
She's fine healthwise, just her normal self, just preoccupied by the discomfort on her nose.

robbocop33

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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HTP99 said:
I'd put money on it being caused by a hedgehog.
Im thinking so too, seen a few going around lately, even in daylight walking across the street.
With it being Sunday i think it's funny money to see a vet today, which i've experienced before when my dog was good enough to fracture her leg last year, on a Sunday! :-)
There's a large pet store nearby, don't know if they'd sell any antibiotic generally over the counter, they do have a locked cabinet full of creams/pills.

robbocop33

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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The vet didn't seem so keen yesterday to give her some sort of antibiotic that we requested, or suggested. However today, being Sunday and there's a £100 consultation fee 'before' any treatment they seem keener to supply antibiotics to me anytime i want today, i should stop being so cynical, it's a bad character trait.

robbocop33

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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moorx said:
Bex, who is a vet nurse, actually said that in the post immediately above yours.
Sorry bout that, been on a few forums and sites, lost the plot there a bit! :-)
I called my local Pets at Home store that has a vets section, but the vet was off sick.
I've actually had a few bad experiences with my current vets, losing pets during routine operations and the likes and i've been in one of those will i, will i not leave them periods over the last few months.
Doesn't make this situation any easier.

robbocop33

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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moorx said:
Bex, who is a vet nurse, actually said that in the post immediately above yours.
Sorry bout that, been on a few forums and sites, lost the plot there a bit! :-)
I called my local Pets at Home store that has a vets section, but the vet was off sick.
I've actually had a few bad experiences with my current vets, losing pets during routine operations and the likes and i've been in one of those will i, will i not leave them periods over the last few months.
Doesn't make this situation any easier.

robbocop33

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Sunday 27th May 2018
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Mr Tom said:
Antibiotics resistance is getting more common and as vets we are advised (for very good reasons) to try and reduce the use of systemic antimicrobials. Initially I may have done similar to what your vet did. Isaderm usually works well on minor skin lesions. Now it has progressed then systemic antimicrobials are likely warranted.
As a vet there is nothing more annoying than an owner demanding antibiotics with no real knowledge of what they are talking about. Sadly the actions of certain clients demanding things in consults etc is a reason why a lot of vets are leaving the profession. Alas another conversation for another day.
This condition was getting worse before our eyes, on the same day of my first consultation where i was given the Isaderm, in the afternoon it had spread wildly.
On this same day i was told Isaderm wasn't to be applied to the now raw, open wounds,i was also told a couple of times antibiotics was the best option, i then called the vet again that day to try and get some more help for my dog with the subsequently 'correct' advice i was given on here and gleened from another vets forum.

robbocop33

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Monday 28th May 2018
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moorx said:
Have you taken your dog to the vet now?
3.45 this afternoon. We've been putting warm salt water on it in the meantime and over last night the whole area seems to have dried up, its stopped seeping and the swelling which you could see from a side profile has gone down.
She's perked up a bit as well.

robbocop33

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Friday 1st June 2018
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I think i alluded to the fact earlier but we've had a couple of bad experiences with our current vet, and my misses has an extremely low opinion especially of them, considering them to be mostly about getting the money in over everything else, anyway.
We both decided(well i was kicked into submission) to cancel the appointment with our current vet, and it just felt right to see a new vet at a different practice, so we did.
She was brilliant and instantly diagnosed it and gave us what we really wanted, medication by mouth!
So diagnosis was Eosinophilic Furunculosis, we were given 'pallatable' antibiotics and steroids. By the end of the day we could see it drying up and the swelling going down.
Most concerning thing was from the side of her face you see the swelling was going to her nose, 'but' it looked like her nose didn't want to swell and there was a lot of pressure and seeping at that point, looked awful!
Here's a pic, incidentally if anyone wants to know the actual medication, i can remember off top of my head Antibiotics are Relixine, Steroids i think were Prednidale(labels worn)