Air Ambulance fuel duty petition

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Updated 19/3/14

Here’s something that did helped by just a few clicks of a mouse button -

The RNLI lifeboats have been exempt from VAT on the fuel they use since 1977 and a government petition has been set up to do the same for Air Ambulances

‘The Air Ambulance Service have saved successive governments millions and millions of pounds funded by charitable donations given by the general public to run what has proven to be an essential service.’

even though the e-petition now has over 100,000 signatures it will still only be eligible for debate in the House of Commons but not certain that it will be debated so many, many more signatures are needed for them to really take notice

a quick look at the fact page should remind you of the service’s value - http://www.airambulanceassociation.co.uk/amazing_f...

Edited by nta16 on Wednesday 19th March 13:13

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Zippee said:

Done! Though not sure why this thread isn't in the lounge instead of Events.....

thanks Tony, I don't normally visit the Lounge but by the look at thread numbers I thought the turnover of subjects looked too brisk and that it would disappear off the first page quickly but if you'd like to post it there please do - I have to be careful about cross/multi posting

and I also hoped others would spread the word too

I've just found out there's also a petition about Mountain Search and Rescue teams too - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/14994

thanks all

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Mods please -

just had a thought could you please sticky this thread and I'll let you know when it no longer needs a sticky because enough people have signed up or time has run out

TIA

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Munter said:

Well I posted this and nobody cared. Pah.

Now sign it you buggers.

I done a PH search before posting and it did not turn up on the words/phrase I used

very few have posted here perhaps you could follow up Tony's (Zippee) suggestion above

ETA: sorry I forgot that important word not

Edited by na on Wednesday 7th March 19:03

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it's also posted here with details of a young lad raising money for them - http://www.petrolheadnirvana.com/torque/showthread...

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Podie said:

Well, I clicked "report" and asked for it to be made a sticky...

thank you

doh, I didn't think of that

thank you Mods

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13 year old Dylan has decided for himself to raise funds and is:

'doing a sponsored 10 mile Go-Kart pedal to raise funds for the Bucks/Berks/Oxon Air Ambulance which is based at RAF Benson. They get no outside funding from anywhere and rely completly on donations. The average cost per flight is £2000 and usually get called out about 4 times a day.'

see - http://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthread.php?47026-F...

a fantastic piece of active support

if you'd like to sponsor Dylan let me know and I'll send you details

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well Dylan (13 years old) has done his bit

he's raised an excellent £828 - so far, it would be good if even more donations came in

Hello.
Thank you very much for sponsoring me in my charity challenge. I am happy to say I was successful in my attempt today. My legs are very tired but not as tired as my Dad's legs
I will put some pictures in my Mustang forum thread in the next day or two.
Thank you for your support.
Dylan.

it would be good if even more donations came in

see - http://www.mocgb.net/forums/showthread.php?47026-F...

Edited by na on Sunday 11th March 16:30

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thanks all

still a way to go, need another 40,000 people to sign up

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wow, jumped to 71,000 the word must be getting around

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Munter said:

na said:

wow, jumped to 71,000 the word must be getting around

I saw tiff tweet it the other day. So once it hit a few "celebs" I guess more signed.

what a pity that it takes a celeb to get the message across but good on Tiff

if the stack of st he used to work with got behind it it'd be filled in a couple of days

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thanks all

as for what and why who knows the way of governments

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paulrussell said:

I don't think Air Ambulances pay VAT on fuel.

I cut and pasted in good faith but I'll contact the Association of Air Ambulances to check

paulrussell said:

Also Parliament won't be forced into discussion if the petition reches 100,000 signutares.

that was my mistake I think sorry my poor memory

you are right it says 'if it gets at least 100,000 signatures, it will be eligible for debate in the House of Commons.'

update: email now sent

Edited by na on Sunday 25th March 20:44

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na said:

paulrussell said:

I don't think Air Ambulances pay VAT on fuel.

I cut and pasted in good faith but I'll contact the Association of Air Ambulances to check

update: email now sent

Paul, Air Ambulances do pay VAT on fuel, there is a slight twist but here are the details:

Dear Mr Atkins, many thanks for the message. The petition is quite correct in that Air Ambulances do pay VAT on most of their fuel. The situation is complicated by the fact that some Air Ambulances are provided with fuel via their helicopter supplier and in these circumstances they do not actually pay the VAT themselves. In any situation where an Air Ambulance helicopter refuels from a publicly available fuel source then VAT will be payable. I hope this makes sense.

Kind regards,
Peter Aldrick
Association of Air Ambulances.

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paulrussell said:

It appears that I'm mistaken. I thought Air Ambulances were set up as charities to avoid paying VAT.

I'll have to find out perhaps the hassle and cost of reclaiming plus it might be funds not available for their primary use and loss of interest on money - I don't know but will find out

paulrussell said:

I've signed the petition.

thank you

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mybrainhurts said:

What is a "publicly available fuel source"?

I'll leave you to work that out for yourself, based on your user name take your time

mybrainhurts said:

Thought aviation fuel was free from taxation?

I'll ask

mybrainhurts said:

And, if VAT is charged, why can't they reclaim it, like any other business?

again I'll ask, I suspect things might not be that straight forward if it's to do with tax, legislation and government

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thank you signers

thank you ninja-lewis

mybrainhurts – I’ve not got official reply to your questions at moment

as for me leaving it for you to work out about fuel sources I put that humorous remark based on your user name and Profile details and given that the tone of the questions

be patient I’ll try to get you a reply

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mybrainhurts said:

keep patient

I'm sure I'm not the only thing Peter has to deal with and he probably has no idea just how important I am as I keep modest

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mybrainhurts said:

Buttocks clinched...

yours I hope

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na said:

mybrainhurts said:

keep patient

I'm sure I'm not the only thing Peter has to deal with and he probably has no idea just how important I am as I keep modest

I'll chase this up Tuesday

thanks to all signees