Pistonheaders pay it forwards challenge.
Discussion
I've had an idea. Pistonheads, as a community, often proves that it is a community, and we do great deeds for each other.
This may tank, I hope it doesn't.
The challenge is as follows. Members detail a predicament that they have. The predicament is not to be monetary based, but a problem needing solving, a dilemma, help needed with something.
They put their predicament on the thread. Someone has a resolve, can offer the labour, the skill-set, the time, whatever, which they offer.
As a result of this the person who received the help HAS to pay forward the same to another.
An illustration. I restore leather. Say, I'd got myself in a financial muddle. I post about the s
t show I'm in. A member who is a financial adviser offers their time to me to figure it all out. In that scenario I must owe my skill set to someone else in their own predicament. The obvious one would be to volunteer leather work, BUT, I could elect any other thing I could offer if the requirement arose, be it volunteering manual labour, shifting something in a van, what ever.
The crux is that I (in this instance, anyone in others) would owe a pay it forward, having recieved a favour myself from another.
Who's game. Any of you needing a specific piece of help, which a PH'er could provide?
This may tank, I hope it doesn't.
The challenge is as follows. Members detail a predicament that they have. The predicament is not to be monetary based, but a problem needing solving, a dilemma, help needed with something.
They put their predicament on the thread. Someone has a resolve, can offer the labour, the skill-set, the time, whatever, which they offer.
As a result of this the person who received the help HAS to pay forward the same to another.
An illustration. I restore leather. Say, I'd got myself in a financial muddle. I post about the s
t show I'm in. A member who is a financial adviser offers their time to me to figure it all out. In that scenario I must owe my skill set to someone else in their own predicament. The obvious one would be to volunteer leather work, BUT, I could elect any other thing I could offer if the requirement arose, be it volunteering manual labour, shifting something in a van, what ever.The crux is that I (in this instance, anyone in others) would owe a pay it forward, having recieved a favour myself from another.
Who's game. Any of you needing a specific piece of help, which a PH'er could provide?
ferrariF50lover said:
Have I understood this right?
The seats in my XKR require your skills. You do this for me, but instead of paying you, I owe a third party X of my time to, say, look after their children for a bit, or help them rewrite their business emails to be more effective or forensically acquire their HDD?
That right?
You're about there. It's not a 'get Rob to restore your seats for free thread', more a here's my problem (none cash, IE who can pay off my mortgage?) who can help. That could be needing someones knowledge, specialist skill, time, labour, ANYthing that isn't cash centric.The seats in my XKR require your skills. You do this for me, but instead of paying you, I owe a third party X of my time to, say, look after their children for a bit, or help them rewrite their business emails to be more effective or forensically acquire their HDD?
That right?
They get the help, they then must pay something forward, whatever that may be.
talksthetorque said:
And to take the first P.I.F. Full Circle I can offer to help Fermit with any large format printing ( banners etc) as I live fairly close to him.
I'll sleep on that, as that is something I could use. Under the rules I'd then owe someone a favour. Oh, I think I neglected to mention, pay it forward isn't about 'you do me this I'll do you that', it's I get help in a predicament, I owe another one with their need. ferrariF50lover said:
Actually, sorry, me again. If anyone can do a very good job restoring the wheels on my XKR, I am willing to pay a substantial value of reciprocal effort (or I could just pay using money, like normal people).
Missing the point by a mile. Money is a transaction. Someone paying you kindness, then you having to pay it forward is about community, which is what PH is. Second Best said:
ambuletz said:
sorry but the idea of pay it forward is for people wanting a meal who probably cant afford it. many US small restaurants/fast food places do this as a way of people feeding those who have no money/are homeless.
I think you're seeing it the wrong way. Paying it forward is doing a favour to someone, because someone else did you a favour. As an example, a few years ago I got my car stuck in the snow. A passing Transit full of builders heaved me out and wouldn't take any payment. Two days later I saw a couple of youngsters just miss the last bus home, so I gave them a lift to their nearest bus stop. Doing a good deed doesn't need to involve money or plastering it all over social media, it's the pleasant feeling you get for having helped out another human in need, no matter what it may be. A restaurant's main purpose is to feed people, so by offering free food they're just doing what they can. A family friend of mine fainted in a park a few months ago, and an off-duty paramedic taking his dog for a walk quickly ran over and administered medical care. I highly doubt the lovely chap went home and went on twitter to say "lol helped an old guy who fainted in the park #win #fail #faint".
MYOB said:
We should always offer help to others and expect nothing in return. That's my philosophy.
A great idea in principle but not sure how it works online especially as many of us help others without funfare.
I don't think any fanfare is needed or called for. Maybe a wiki, to state when some one has received a good deed, and when they've paid one forward. If they feel the desire to the recipient can comment. This shouldn't be about praise seeking. A great idea in principle but not sure how it works online especially as many of us help others without funfare.
Jeenyus161 said:
I echo what's put above - love the idea/intent behind this.
How about a slightly different approach?
People post what they are able to help out with and (if they are comfortable doing so) the region they are based in.
If someone spots someone who might be able to help out, they contact via PM.
If you think its a terrible idea, you simply don't post any skills and no one contacts you.
That's a good suggestion. This thread was intended to be anything other than glory seeking. How about a slightly different approach?
People post what they are able to help out with and (if they are comfortable doing so) the region they are based in.
If someone spots someone who might be able to help out, they contact via PM.
If you think its a terrible idea, you simply don't post any skills and no one contacts you.
surveyor said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
OK. To push it along a little, see if this has legs. Would anyone in the East Midlands like a free car leather restoration, understanding that they are then obliged to pay forward a good deed to another PH'er. Putting my money where my mouth is.
You do remember what happened to the starter in the film, right?
TheAngryDog said:
Davie_GLA said:
I get it OP, will also lurk for a while to see what i can help with but in general i don't have anything special to offer. 20 years in IT and more recently in data centres and a good understanding of technology in the home and office can be valuable to someone though.
Anyone needs any help with anything like that then i'm Central Belt in Scotland based.
OP - you're too far away from me however perhaps some good, unbiased advise is something you could offer?
I have a 2008 7 series with tan leather and i love the car very much. It's in good need of a decent clean and feed however i'm paranoid about damaging the leather or removing the colour with the vast array of products on the market.
How would you approach getting the leather back to looking and feeling tip top?
While not a leather expert, I used autoglym leather cleaner and then used autoglym leather care balm. Leather came of nice and matte, which is what was expected. Anyone needs any help with anything like that then i'm Central Belt in Scotland based.
OP - you're too far away from me however perhaps some good, unbiased advise is something you could offer?
I have a 2008 7 series with tan leather and i love the car very much. It's in good need of a decent clean and feed however i'm paranoid about damaging the leather or removing the colour with the vast array of products on the market.
How would you approach getting the leather back to looking and feeling tip top?
Firstly, never use baby wipes, magic erasers, anything with alcohol in it (smell it) as these, with repeated use, will fubar your pigment. Always avoid anything that promotes shine/polish/gleam etc. They will contain either oils, wax or silicone to achieve this. These ingredients will simply sit on the surface of your leather, attracting crap.
As eluded above, shiny leather (a patina) is dirty leather. Clean leather should be mat and soft. If it's shiny and plasticy it is needing a clean.
Always use a PH neutral cleaner, and a protector a few times a year. Most protectors, unbelievably, don't protect from anything. I have seen this with my own eyes, a drop of oil going straight through (bare) hides, 'protected' by supposed protectors.
The products I always recommend are LTT Leather Cares. Simply, they work. And we practice what we preach, I use their stuff on our Natuzzi, Stressless and Charles Eames furniture.
Also cleaning with white kitchen roll is helpful. When the sheet used is simply wet rather than dirty wet you know no more dirt is coming off the leather.
Always try and protect leather from UV, there is not a paint/dye/pigment etc in the world that can't be bleached by the sun.
Always make sure (especially if your leather is light) that any material that comes in to contact with it is colour-fast, ESPECIALLY red, which can be nigh on impossible to remove. The same applies to wet jeans, however old. Also metal work on jeans and similar will scratch leather.
If you want to remove dents in leather, like the ones child seats cause, massage the leather whilst a hair dryer is being blown on the dent (being careful to not burn your fingers!) the fibres will gradually tighten and the dent will be gone, or much removed.
Never trust DIY kits telling you that you can colour match yourself. If we use an £8000 Photospectrometer to achieve a perfect colour match, ask yourself, will a £15 kit off ebay achieve the same result?
There endeth the lesson
Humble Pi said:
Dating coach required. Help a terminally single mid 30 year old become a hit with the ladies?
Where you going wrong fella?Some tips.
If you have a sister(s) female friends or colleagues then get them to go clothes/footwear/haircut shopping with you. Girls know what they think looks good on a man. Wear good shoes, women always clock them.
Be confident. If nothing else this is a must. Women can smell desperation a mile off. An EG, if you're texting a lady, leave it 20 minutes, an hour before you reply, they'll keep checking their phone.
If all else fails, when you see a girl you like in the bar, don't be afraid to say 'hi, can I just say how lovely you look tonight, may I buy you a drink'. IMO it's the ONLY chat up line which can work. If they say yes make your following chat count.
Davie_GLA said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Where you going wrong fella?
Some tips.
If you have a sister(s) female friends or colleagues then get them to go clothes/footwear/haircut shopping with you. Girls know what they think looks good on a man. Wear good shoes, women always clock them.
Be confident. If nothing else this is a must. Women can smell desperation a mile off. An EG, if you're texting a lady, leave it 20 minutes, an hour before you reply, they'll keep checking their phone.
If all else fails, when you see a girl you like in the bar, don't be afraid to say 'hi, can I just say how lovely you look tonight, may I buy you a drink'. IMO it's the ONLY chat up line which can work. If they say yes make your following chat count.
Pistonheads has come a long way. Not so long ago it was a chloroform soaked rage and then coke and hookers Some tips.
If you have a sister(s) female friends or colleagues then get them to go clothes/footwear/haircut shopping with you. Girls know what they think looks good on a man. Wear good shoes, women always clock them.
Be confident. If nothing else this is a must. Women can smell desperation a mile off. An EG, if you're texting a lady, leave it 20 minutes, an hour before you reply, they'll keep checking their phone.
If all else fails, when you see a girl you like in the bar, don't be afraid to say 'hi, can I just say how lovely you look tonight, may I buy you a drink'. IMO it's the ONLY chat up line which can work. If they say yes make your following chat count.
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