Kidney Stones

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dr_gn

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Thursday 20th April 2017
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Started peeing brown urine Monday afternoon. Went to GP walk in centre who diagnosed a uti. By 23:30 I was on my hands and knees in a&e with the worst stomach pain I've ever experienced. After x-rays, blood and urine tests, they diagnosed a 4mm kidney stone. To my amazement they discharged me with pain killers. The pain was controlled to a degree, but still extremely uncomfortable. After speaking to my GP today, I'm on stronger pain killers and anti nausea tablets. I might have to wait a week to get an appointment with a consultant at the stone clinic at hospital.

Any tips on how to get comfortable, and what the chances of passing a 4mm stone are? Gp seemed to be unconcerned with the whole thing, but it's been a week of agony so far!


dr_gn

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Thanks, yes I'm on all the drugs. The a&e doctor said he knew what it was as soon as he saw that I couldn't stand, sit or lay down for more than 5 seconds at a time.

dr_gn

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I'll look forward to it getting stuck then laugh

dr_gn

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Thanks guys, yes, I thought my number was up too. Right now I should be enjoying my wedding anniversary night out - a piano concert in Hamburg with my wife. Instead I'm in bed in Sheffield with a hot water bottle on my stomach wondering what's going to happen next. Always at the back of my mind that it might be something worse with these things...

There was no way I was getting on an aircraft immediately after 6 hours in a&e.

dr_gn

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tedmus said:
I've passed 2 over the years. First one was the worst pain I've ever felt. Started a few days before with constant need to piss and it being browny coloured, got worse over time with me passing blood before I eventually had to go into A&E with the pain. The morphine was bliss that night. Spent 2 nights in hospital (during which some old bloke nicked my trainers), consultant was considering going up there to get it out but ended up being sent home where I passed it (them really as a bit broke off in the way out) at home. Main one was about 5mm and shaped a bit like an ancient arrowhead. Weird sensation as it transits into the old chap.

Second one a few years later was from the other side, not as big thankfully. Went to A&E on a Sunday but went home after getting fed up waiting several hours.

Interestingly was told after the scan I had for my first one I had two tubes (ureter?) going into the kidney on my left side.
Getting older is so much fun.

dr_gn

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How long did the stones take to pass through form first pain? I'm on day 3 now...

dr_gn

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Hmm a week? To be honest I've lost a bit of confidence to go out after all that. Supposed to be meeting the wife and kids from the airport tomorrow.

I'm sure most people reading this will think Im exaggerating, but jeez it was a shock.

dr_gn

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Thursday 20th April 2017
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GG89 said:
Stay very well hydrated.
apparently there are different types of stone, so I'm not sure whether hydration applies to reducing the chances of getting all of them or whether it could also be a blood or diet thing?

dr_gn

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Friday 21st April 2017
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I'm currently left with a dull ache in my lower left abdomen, which spreads to somewhere behind my balls (like something is trying to pull them by the tubes) when I try to get some sleep.

Thoroughly recommended.


dr_gn

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Friday 21st April 2017
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Thanks - something to look forward to at last.

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You know when you get the feeling that despite expert analysis, something just ain't going to happen....

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Sunday 30th April 2017
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dudleybloke said:
How you feeling? Has it worked its way through yet?
No, no sign of it. I've got a hospital stone clinic appointment on Wednesday.

I have a dull ache in my lower left groin- actually a slightly worse feeling than an unresolved issue I've had there for the past 4 years or so (investigated hip problem, ultrasound, X-ray, Physio, but no real answers).

The searing pain has obviously gone, but there's something not right in the left kidney area. Currently I'm left feeling nauseous (but hungry), fatigued (but not able to sleep), and just generally very odd. Truth is, it's one of those where I can't imagine ever feeling ok again...

But thanks for asking laugh



dr_gn

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Saturday 6th May 2017
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Went to the Stone Clinic at the hospital on Wendesday.

Told the consultant I've still got some discomfort, along with nausea. He had a poke around and then sent me for a CT scan, and am now waiting for the results - which is almost worse than the pain. I'm convinced it's something bad...

dr_gn

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Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Update - had the CT scan, which showed another stone on the other side. The consultant said it wouldn't be wise to travel, becasue if they moved, it would be an emergency admission to the nearest hospital. So, I've had to cancel my summer holiday (which was this week).

Got an appointment on 9th June for laser treatment to break them both up. Not looking forward to it, since it's supposed to be a GA. I've requested a spinal instead, but am now wondering whether it's the best idea. Will talk to the consulatant on the day I think.

Will be 8 weeks since first being in A&E. Two months feeling crap may be trivial compared with what many people have to put up with, but god I'm fed up with it now! No pain, but constant nausea and weakness.


dr_gn

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Tuesday 30th May 2017
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dudleybloke said:
We need you to get better, those paper boats don't build themselves you know!
Ha ha - that's the least of it! I hate TV at the best of times, but I'm now an expert on Salvage Hunters, Top Gear and Life Below bloody Zero. Not done any models - can't concentrate.

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Tuesday 30th May 2017
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xjay1337 said:
dr_gn said:
Update - had the CT scan, which showed another stone on the other side. The consultant said it wouldn't be wise to travel, becasue if they moved, it would be an emergency admission to the nearest hospital. So, I've had to cancel my summer holiday (which was this week).

Got an appointment on 9th June for laser treatment to break them both up. Not looking forward to it, since it's supposed to be a GA. I've requested a spinal instead, but am now wondering whether it's the best idea. Will talk to the consulatant on the day I think.

Will be 8 weeks since first being in A&E. Two months feeling crap may be trivial compared with what many people have to put up with, but god I'm fed up with it now! No pain, but constant nausea and weakness.
That's proper ste mate. Hopefully you get better soon.
Thanks! Pissed off about my holiday (Pembrokeshire), we look forward to it all year. Re-booked for August. At least the weather appears to be crap down there this week.

dr_gn

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Sunday 4th June 2017
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Chris Type R said:
R8Steve said:
If you have proper kidney stones you wouldn't be posting on here. wink
You were right, turned out to be an infection in the end. Lots of poking and prodding and *two* prostate examinations in one day !
By the end of this week (due to go in for laser treatment on Friday), in the past 2 months since being admitted to A&E, I'll have had every bodily orifice penetrated at least once by a medical professional. irked

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Monday 19th June 2017
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M42L said:
Checked into the kidney stone club today for the second time in 4 years. The first one took 7 days to appear, gave me a horrendous infection prompting a weird sort of half dream that I met God.
Today the hottest day of the year and I spend it in A&E. Was woken up by a pain that by lunchtime had me throwing up, in tears curled up on the bathroom floor. So A&E it is. Eventually passed a minuscule amount of pee, had the usual pill up the bum, had a more satisfying pee and passed a stone. Got scanned and I still have a 6mm one stuck. Up shot is 9hrs in A&E but feeling so much better and googling what torture the urologist has in store to remove it.
I had laser stone removal Friday before last. They could only remove on side, so now got stents in both kidney pipes.Discharged (with catheter) on the same day, then agonizing pain again on Saturday night. Spent all last week in hospital with a kidney infection....and another catheter. Home now, getting over the effects of all this.

As soon as I've recovered, I've got to go through it all again to get the other side done.

Not my idea of what a "day patient" was!

dr_gn

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Tuesday 4th July 2017
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So Im back in tomorrow for the other side. I hope the stents and medication have dilated the tubes a bit so that they can get to the stone.

The stents are hopeless - you feel full all the time, even after pissing like a racehorse, and have had them in now since 9th June.

Hopefully this time I wont have stage 3 AKI after the operation...

Wish me luck!

dr_gn

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Monday 17th July 2017
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Vantagemech said:
Currently having a few days off recovering after having an 8mm stone removed from my urethra.
I had the same op 20 years ago and was in bloody agony after the op, the drugs wore off at 2:00am and I woke up like someone had my left kidney in a vice.
Ive a few stones lodged in both kidneys, one being a cluster of the bds in a complex cyst. No pain, just a bugger knowing theyre there. Ive another stuck to the top of the left kidney, they were going to do keyhole but failed to get it loose so left it there.
Had the usual signs, frequent visits to the loo, not passing much, dull pain from the side down to the groin area. Went to my GP and said this is what it is, did a urine test and referred me there and then. Pain was not as bad as 20 years ago, but then I was drinking 3 or 4 nights a week. Apparently the pain is caused as all the nerve endings meet up by the neck of the bladder.
Still took 3 months to get the op, though if the stone blocks the passageway it can cause damage to the kidney.
Thankfully the dull pain has gone and considering I was let out Thursday lunchtime I should be back in later this week. Not taken pain killers for 2 days but drinking the litres of water a day is tricky!

As for cause Im still waiting for the results. Dr said theres no evidence to suggest diet and my grandmother suffered with them also so more than likely hereditary.

There is a drug that helps dilate the tubes, worth it if the stone is in the neck or past the bladder. I can find out what it is as it also releives some of the discomfort as well.
Probably Tamsulosin? I've been on the full range of medication during my kidney stone removal/kidney failure.

Went in to A&E, and was diagnosed with a stone on 18th April. Turned out to be 2 stones. Had the last stent removed today. Felt like having the QE2 pulled through my knob, but at least I can cough/laugh/take a deep breath without a little bit of wee coming out. Just hope the blood in urine clears up in the next few days then that's hopefully me done with hospitals for 3 months 'till the next check.