What did you come from and what did/will you move to?

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I hsve no plans to jump out of my MY13 S SR but like most of us i cruise the classifieds a lot just to see whats out there.

For tme i cant find a viable replacement. When i say this i mean with the sanme criteria i used when looking for my Lotus.

- Practical - Can fit my daugheter and wife for weekend trips
- Fast - close to 4 seconds to 60
- Handles well and provides driving pleasure on all roads
- Can do long trips - i took it to the nurburgring last year
- Is rare and (to my eye) looks exotic and special
- Makes me really want to drive it
- Has tuning potential when i feel the need for more power
- Holds value pretty well

To get this tick list in any other car (i see as a potential step forward) i am sacrificing something and all are 30k plus more than my Evora (bought for 45k) and same age or older. If i throw 5k on a komotec kit to 430 the evore will keep pace with/be faster or as quick as all of the below.

- 997 GTS. Not that interesting to look at, more expensive, similar performance, not as involving to drive
- GTR. I just dont like them!
- V8V. identicle performace, less poractical, maintanance is high, older car.
- F430. Too old for what i can afford
- Gallardo. Too old for what i can afford
- R8. Just does not float my boat and again old for my buget with not much difference in performace from the evora and less practical
- F Type R. Horrid depreciation, less practical, quite common now
- Excige V6. Too raw for me at the moment but a contendar in terms of performance gains, age and in budget. It is less practical....obviosuly!
- Boxster S and Cayman S. Dont do it for me. Too slow and less involving as well as well as less practical.
- Conti GT. Running costs, depreciateion, age and too GT.
- DB9. To old for what i can afford.
- 991 C2S. Possibility but as per 997 GTS, bit boring to look at and they are common. Alos wit will have steady depreciation.

have i missed anything? The more i look the more i realise just how good ther Evora is.

Stu

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I am thinking when i sell my Evora (maybe 2 years time) my daughter won't fit in any sports car with 4 seats and really there is only thr 911 and Evora in this catagory anyway. As such a move to 2 seats is likely.

Agreed performace is not all about 0-60 but the thunmp in the back on acceleration is a rusch and so acceletration is reasonable important.

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Ted - That is impressive!

Hungrync- The Evora is just spot on but I agree there are some compromises such as build quality is not as good interior wise as the ones I mentioned in my original post and this is linked to some of the switch gear being a bit naff. For what it offered theses to me are worthwhile sacrifices. I agree I think my criteria will need to change for the next car.

It is hard to see past throwing the 430 kit on the Evora for 5k though when almost all other options are so much more expensive. My budget would be 50k ish when the time comes.

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alex_gray255 said:

Moving to an F-type, new TVR or Evora 400

The 400 is an option but the torque is only something like 9lb feet more than the s. As such the 'feel' of speed won't be there. Also for me I prefer the interior of the s. While I appreciate there is more foot room, easier to get in and out etc it loses usable door pockets, no arm rest and the switch gear is plastic. I would be more inclined to boost the s power than buy a 400 and pocket the difference. Not enough change for me. I will drive an f-type r just to see what it's like.

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Hungrymc said:

Always an option! One of the guys on here went 390, 410 then 430. He enjoyed all but particularly the step change to 390 (biggest single jump I guess). I bought an S with the specific intention of tuning it but haven't bitten the bullet yet. I'm only 6 months into ownership, but I can honestly say not once have I wanted more grunt (yet).

Me to, thought after going to the ring I would want to tune it but it never ever felt slow. I asked komotec for performance stats on the 430 but they have not replied. It's nice knowing the option is there.

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cjm said:

I think the new Alpine looks great.

What about a C6 Corvette or the current Mustang if you need the extra seats?

I like the z06 but not the c6. I would rather a Lexus rc-f if i decide rear seats are needed. Every time I look I talk myself in to keeping the Evora as it's so good. Since owning mine I have added a splitter to the front, barge boards, 400 alcantara steering wheel, Larini back box and am now getting some bodywork done as well as wheels referred. Also getting PPF that was on the car replaced with suntec film and full front ppf protection. As such the car will be in epic condition and protected!

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Rockin- c7 is pants inside. I like the grand sport but out of budget.

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rockin said:

When, where and what model of Vette caused you to form that opinion? It sounds out of date. The Euro cars (or 3LT package) have full leather interior, head up display and all the toys you could wish for.

Why do you like the Grand Sport? It's very W-I-D-E and no quicker than the narrower car - any gain in lap times only arises if you specify the hugely expensive racing brake option.

The reviews and pics of it inside make it look a pretty cheap. Clearly I would need to see one and sit in one. The grand sport looks like a good all rounder from a sports car perspective and the interior looks better as well.

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rockin said:

It's the same interior. They really are very good these days.

Ok, worth a pop when the time comes then. I do like styling if the exterior. The reviews of the grand sport are very good. I'll do some digging about the c7.

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Smoking tyre of c7. Safe to say he likes it. No RHD cars though?

https://youtu.be/Vq5HkukfCEY

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The only cars I have found I would test drive as possible replacements when the time comes are the 991 gts (more out of 911 curiosity than wanting own one), c7 as mentioned above as it ticks a lot of boxes but is LHD and Aston v8v s. Then I will no doubt just boost the power in my Evora and keep it. I have sat in and seen a few 400' s but I just don't have the same feeling for them that I had when I first sat in my sports racer. If I had the money a maclaren would be next, no hesitation.

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AverageMPH said:

Lotus Elise 135R, Lotus Elise 111R, Lotus Elise T25, Noble M12 GTO3, Lotus Exige V6, Lotus Evra S sport racer and current car is a Lotus Evora 400.

How do you find the 400 compared to the sports racer? I'd be interested to get your ownership experience comparing the two.

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AverageMPH said:

I'm no expert on cars, I just enjoy driving.

The main difference for me is I prefer the styling on the 400, it also sounds awesome when in sports mode.

Plus you get all this extra:-

1. 55 BHP extra
2. 42 KG lighter
3. Charge cooler
4. Drive, sport, race and off driving modes
5. Easier to get in and out of.

Edited by AverageMPH on Monday 16th January 17:41

The 400 seems to divide opinion styling wise and I prefer the s1. Glad you are enjoying it.

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LotusAde said:

Its a lot faster mate. I know its only 50 bhp but I think the torque must be higher in the 991 as well.

If you have the manual it is identicle 0-60 but the PDK is just under 4 seconds.

Evora s is 244bhp per tonne
991 carera s is 282bhp per tonne

991 also had 30 more lbs feet of torque so while not that much quicker the extra torque will give it more grunt. I'll most likely be going the komotec route to 410 or 430 route as far cheaper than buying a 991

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blueg33 said:

Fastest laps also reckon the 991 C2S is faster, but lets face it, its also more expensive

Just specced one to match as near as possible my Sports Racer S and 991 comes in at £87k

Siimilar spec Evora 400 is £80k but then the 400 is quicker than the C2S unless you spec PDK

All this is as far as I can tell using manufacturers websites

Which is why komotec is so great. For 5.5k the Evora s will be as fast if not faster than the pdk 991 and will have the rarity, handling, feel etc

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johnwilliams77 said:

Worth that alone to avoid Porsche

As I said right at the start of the thread the model and spec I would want to make a 911 feel special is 80k ish in 991 gts spec. Where the lotus Evora s delivers so well is the special feeling it offers from a drivers persepctive and for me there is little compromise. The only element i really prefer of the 991 is the interior fit and finish. The Evora is a bargain for what it offers. As always it's each to their own.