M250 Vs. Evora

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saw the M250 show car at Donington today, along with the Evora's.

Hate to say it, but I really do prefer the lines of the M250... (still looks good 10 years on)

Am I alone?

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Tuna said:

Agreed it has a stunning design, but it did have real packaging problems - even less storage than the Elise and quite a cramped cabin. For a GT, it wasn't something that you could seriously consider driving across continents in. I love the lines, but in retrospect it was more a 'big Elise' than a genuinely different car. Given the poor reception given to the Europa, I doubt it would have sold as well as they needed.

The Evora really has moved the game along.

Honestly don't think this is the case, at the time, it was very well recived with more deposits taken that total Europa's sold!

purpleperil said:

Tuna said:

Given the poor reception given to the Europa, I doubt it would have sold as well as they needed.

I was talking to a dealer on Saturday at the show - he said that he was at the motorshow when they launched the M250 and they took a whole year's profit in deposits for this car! Judging by that I don't believe they'd have been a problem with the take up - trouble is that now the market has moved along and dare I say the competition has caught up?

Yup, also the boot on the Evora is arguably smaller than the Elise!

not convinced with the engine location either, it;s been pushed well back and up to make space of the back seat, be interesting to see what the COG and weight distro is...

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Tuna said:

I've got it as 39/61 front-rear.

The problem with the M250 was that it was based on a stretched Elise. Though they didn't make much of a deal of them at the time, the performance figures were a long way from class leading. The deposits were placed based on the success of the Elise, not the actual ride, handling and accommodation offered by the M250 - you couldn't even sit in the early motorshow car as it was a clay. If it had come to market, people would have started asking questions.

be surprised if those figures are correct?...

either way, the arguments against the M250 just aren't valid in the bigger pictures.

it may well have been based on a (stretched) Elise chassis, so what, what do you think the Evora chassis is? yes they have changed some bit's (like the bolt on front structure etc) but it's essentially the same technology, and anyway, all the features you quote are equally do-able to either platform.

I am still not convinced there is a market for a 2+2...

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cjm said:

Stick a photo of an S2 Elise in there as well, it used all the good design ideas seen in the M250.

some yes, but certainly not all, also, some of them did not translate as well on the Elise scale as they are on the M250.