Are Evoras in dealers yet?

[RobM77]

Bell and Colvill told me last weekend they were getting theirs on Tuesday (26th May). Does anyone know if it's there yet, and if any other dealerships have them?

[RobM77]

NoelWatson said:

RobM77 said:

Bell and Colvill told me last weekend they were getting theirs on Tuesday (26th May). Does anyone know if it's there yet, and if any other dealerships have them?

I just phoned and they said it won't be in for a couple of weeks

Great, thanks. I was expecting a flurry of posts once it arrived, so I thought there might be a delay.

I'd only be torturing myself to look at it anyway. I've just bought my first house so won't spend the money for a few years yet!

[RobM77]

Twit said:

Targarama said:

I agree, nicest colour I've seen for this car. However, doesn't this tell you something about the car - if it looks so less appealling on reds, blues, white etc then it probably isn't very pretty.

Well it isnt! Its a complete lard arse of a car, a huge mess from half way back and bland from the front. But I'm trying to be more positive!!!

I agree entirely!!

Looks aren't everything to me, and I'd still own an Evora, but it would annoy me spending over £50k on an ugly car.

[RobM77]

Thanks for your write up footsoldier - very interesting. The Cayman's brake pedal is stunning, the best I've tried in any car. From the Elises that I've driven this is Lotus' weak point, so I wasn't surprised to read that. I'd say Lotus make up for it with a linear steering rack (really high tech, that! Porsche - can you keep up?), compared with Porsche's non-linear version.

I'd argue over the pedigree point that Autocar make. I love Porsche motorsport heritage (908, 917, 956, 962 etc), and have all the models, posters etc, but Lotus mean more to me (Colin Chapman, Jim Clark, monocoque race cars, ground effect, Lotus 49, 72). I guess that's maybe a personal point though,

I think the word that Autocar are really looking for, but are scared to say, is not pedigree, but "kudos". The Porsche badge just means more because of its luxury well built image - it's like buying a Rolex watch. Lotus, on the other hand, have a reputation of Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious, and it'll take a while to shake that off.

All I care about is which is better to drive

[RobM77]

shoestring7 said:

RobM77 said:

I'd say Lotus make up for it with a linear steering rack (really high tech, that! Porsche - can you keep up?), compared with Porsche's non-linear version.

Yeah, right. Mules like the 968CS and GT3s, all ruined by 'flawed' non-linear steering racks. SS7

968 was linear as far as I know. It may be a personal gripe, but yes, all modern Porsches that I've driven are ruined for me by their non linear racks. Personally I just can't adjust to them and I would never buy one because of it. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but personally I can't adjust.

[RobM77]

shoestring7 said:

RobM77 said:

shoestring7 said:

RobM77 said:

I'd say Lotus make up for it with a linear steering rack (really high tech, that! Porsche - can you keep up?), compared with Porsche's non-linear version.

Yeah, right. Mules like the 968CS and GT3s, all ruined by 'flawed' non-linear steering racks. SS7

968 was linear as far as I know. It may be a personal gripe, but yes, all modern Porsches that I've driven are ruined for me by their non linear racks. Personally I just can't adjust to them and I would never buy one because of it. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but personally I can't adjust.

968 steering was variable assistance, probably linear rack.

The point is, nobody ever noticed (and the same for the GT2/3 Porsches). And possibly if you were able to turn down your analysis function, you might enjoy driving more.

Ss7

Car reviewers don't notice a lot of things to be honest. Plenty of people on here have mentioned features of cars that magazines like Autocar and Evo completely miss. I've driven the cars in question and the PHers are dead right. The 350Z's steering and throttle are classic examples.

I'm actually quite a relaxed and natural driver, I don't over-analyse thigs as it may appear sometimes. I just find that the steering gets in the way of my driving. When I test drove the Cayman S last (I dearly wanted one, so test drove it twice to make sure!) I ran over a grass apex on a hairpin and I nearly put the car into the middle of a roundabout on another occasion!! As one should, I complete the turn-in in one action at the start of a corner, knowing in my mind exactly how much lock to put on. Obviously my mind can't compute the non linear part of the rack (I'm not that clever!), so in tighter turns I instinctively put on too much lock. The effect is that I apex about 6 inches tighter than I expected to. I dread to think what opposite lock is like!

Great cars though - one day I'll buy one and try and source a linear rack from somewhere.

As I said, it's just a personal gripe. My team mate in racing has a Cayman S and has never mentioned the steering on it. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a Porsche to someone, but personally I just can't get on with the steering.