Can we conceptualise the shape of the universe?

Can we conceptualise the shape of the universe?

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Why is so difficult to know the shape, if such a shape even exists?

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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JeremyH5 said:
Because no-one knows what it looks like.
no one knew what a black hole looked like, until they found evidence of one.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
What about our neighbouring Universes?
if we can describe neighboring universes, then we would have an idea on the shape of ours, surely?

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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is it possible we as humans could never understand (limitations to visualisation) it where as a computer could?

anonymous-user

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Thursday 9th November 2017
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avinalarf said:
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Time began.
Therefore Space and Time are relative.
Some argue spacetime has no time dimension

“One can travel in space only, and time is a numerical order of his motion.”

https://phys.org/news/2011-04-scientists-spacetime...

So before the big bang time doesn't need to exist, no motion, no time. What caused the motion could be by the appearance of virtual particles, that can come of of nothing.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/somethi...

"Virtual particles" can become real photons--under the right conditions


anonymous-user

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Saturday 18th November 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
Some argue spacetime has no time dimension

“One can travel in space only, and time is a numerical order of his motion.”

https://phys.org/news/2011-04-scientists-spacetime...

So before the big bang time doesn't need to exist, no motion, no time. What caused the motion could be by the appearance of virtual particles, that can come of of nothing.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/somethi...

"Virtual particles" can become real photons--under the right conditions

Interesting. I remember something similar was said on here a little while ago. People did not like the notion at all.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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I was reading about how the universe is flat, but is similar to how we thought the earth was flat. What we see, we cannot we the curve of the universe, which i thought was interesting.


anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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anonymous said:
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here's a good video on empty space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzLDkMfR_60

"Something From Nothing": Virtual Particles and Gravity

anonymous-user

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Saturday 18th November 2017
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PugwasHDJ80 said:
what shape is a black hole?
www.quora.com%2FWhat-is-the-shape-of-a-black-hole

''The shape of the black hole's event horizon can be calculated. For a stable black hole it is an oblate spheroid, like the Earth, with its oblateness corresponding to its spin. Outside the event horizon there are some other areas of interest, such as the ergosphere and the photon sphere.''



Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 18th November 22:16

anonymous-user

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Saturday 18th November 2017
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i think we live in a world where what really matters is pretty superficial, celebs lifestyles etc. Nothing of real meaning is ever in the mainstream, i mean on a Saturday night prime time people don;t watch scientists discuss the latest theorems.

i wish i was more clever to truly understand it, as it is fascinating to think we are just scraping the surface of what we know I think some thing will come of of quantum understanding, computers, even power plants utilising pressure variances in virtual particles etc.

The good thing about questions like this is, is that philosophy could answer as many of the questions as science can, and anyone can philosophise.



Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 18th November 22:57