Science is in danger. Peer review scandal in the community.

Science is in danger. Peer review scandal in the community.

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TellYaWhatItIs

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Friday 29th November 2019
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The very definition of science and any scientific research that produce new assertions or claims should be, testable, measurable and repeatable.

Some interesting reading.

https://www.sott.net/article/319331-Crisis-in-scie...

https://www.sott.net/article/344085-Peer-reviewed-...

https://www.sott.net/article/346659-Former-editor-...


TellYaWhatItIs

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Friday 29th November 2019
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There is no need to take aim at me my friend, I did not compose or publish any of the material I link to.
I am assuming you haven't read all the info in the links? Sources and cases are cited and worthy of discussion, unless you know more about every subject discussed by those with PHDs coming out their ears.

So, have you anything constructive to add to the discussion?

TellYaWhatItIs

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I am not inclined to respond to your 'test' as all the info and a lot more is already presented above.

If you don't like the font or colours, you could search for the original source material.

For example, the 3rd link is to a Guardian piece written by Charlie Cooper, dated 15 Apr 2015, with the main protagonist being Dr. Richard Smith, who edited the British Medical Journal for more than a decade.

I suggest you expand upon the knowledge you already think you have.

TellYaWhatItIs

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Friday 29th November 2019
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So you still haven't actually read the content then?

Horse to water and all that....

TellYaWhatItIs

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Gojira said:
Funny, the link you quoted says the Cooper article was in the Independent, not the Guardian! confused
You are correct, apologies. An error by me in quoting the source. Although it possibly adds merit points, Guardian is one of my least favourite lol.

TellYaWhatItIs

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FredClogs said:
It won't be long, in fact the day may have come already, when the biggest and best scientific research and the most important breakthroughs will come from China and other privately funded research groups outside of the peer review process, like they do in engineering and industry.

The claim in the first article that most claims are unrepeatable would suggest the success of peer review process though, surely?
That is a very good point you make FredCLogs, a quick refresh and tinternet search to re-clarify the numbers I had in my head shows China produces 600,000 engineers p/a. USA, 70,000, the UK, around 12,000 from memory.

The same 'politics' will apply in China of WHO is funding the research.

Scientists being paid to carry out research will not produce information contrary or inverse to what the paymasters want the outcome to be. It's all weighted, only with China you would have an increased level of control or influence form the state.