Covid vaccine effectiveness.
Discussion
There is a science question in this - I'll just 'set the scene' first.
I've just seen a post on Facebook this morning which made me groan a little, but also raised a question in my mind.
In the post, the person claims that during development, subjects were not actually infected with Covid, but just given the vaccine, which makes no sense (to me).
So, on to the *science* part of my question.
Would I be correct in assuming that scientists know what the vaccine needs to contain in order to prevent the virus attacking a person's immune system, hence they have no need to infect the subjects, but just have to test that administering the vaccine doesn't result in any unwanted side effects?
Facebook post below: (This individual has been particularly outspoken on Covid issues but I know is no expert..)
I've just seen a post on Facebook this morning which made me groan a little, but also raised a question in my mind.
In the post, the person claims that during development, subjects were not actually infected with Covid, but just given the vaccine, which makes no sense (to me).
So, on to the *science* part of my question.
Would I be correct in assuming that scientists know what the vaccine needs to contain in order to prevent the virus attacking a person's immune system, hence they have no need to infect the subjects, but just have to test that administering the vaccine doesn't result in any unwanted side effects?
Facebook post below: (This individual has been particularly outspoken on Covid issues but I know is no expert..)
Faceache post said:
Now let’s get this clear, I’m not an anti vaxxer, vaccines have done wonderful things and will continue to do so.
But
All these efficacy claims of Coronavirus vaccines are without doubt absolute bulls
t.
Let me explain why in words of not many syllables for those of you who don’t get it.
Efficacy (I know that’s a long word) (google it) is proven by exposure to whatever you are treating.
Now let’s say they gave 50,000 people the vaccine in trials.
Did they give those 50,000 people a “get out of jail free card to go and mingle and go to the pub and live normal lives?”
Answer is no.
Therefore no efficacy is proven at all.
Did they expose all 50,000 people to the virus deliberately?
Answer is no.
Therefore no efficacy can be derived at all.
Therefore, safety concerns aside, there is virtually no data to say that the vaccine works in any way shape or form.
So with the safety concerns as well, think carefully before you have a vaccine that’s unproven, could be unsafe and yet you have no legal redress if you have life changing after effects, because you can’t sue anyone for that legal redress.
My advice?
Wait a couple of years while we actually have data.
Of course by then we’ll all be shielding from a nasty strain of the common cold.
Because it might kill us...
But
All these efficacy claims of Coronavirus vaccines are without doubt absolute bulls
t. Let me explain why in words of not many syllables for those of you who don’t get it.
Efficacy (I know that’s a long word) (google it) is proven by exposure to whatever you are treating.
Now let’s say they gave 50,000 people the vaccine in trials.
Did they give those 50,000 people a “get out of jail free card to go and mingle and go to the pub and live normal lives?”
Answer is no.
Therefore no efficacy is proven at all.
Did they expose all 50,000 people to the virus deliberately?
Answer is no.
Therefore no efficacy can be derived at all.
Therefore, safety concerns aside, there is virtually no data to say that the vaccine works in any way shape or form.
So with the safety concerns as well, think carefully before you have a vaccine that’s unproven, could be unsafe and yet you have no legal redress if you have life changing after effects, because you can’t sue anyone for that legal redress.
My advice?
Wait a couple of years while we actually have data.
Of course by then we’ll all be shielding from a nasty strain of the common cold.
Because it might kill us...
I found this to be a good explanation as to how it works.
He's and audio guy but has a friend who is a doctor.
He's and audio guy but has a friend who is a doctor.
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