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Tony Starks

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Saturday 6th February 2021
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I've just started a correspondence maths course and I'm stuck on how this example works. You're all cleverer than me so how does this work?



Its to do with Arithmetic Sequences and I can work out what the number for a sequence will be using the formula tn = a+(n-1)d to work out say the 9th term would be this value. I'm just stumped on how to work it out from being given the value to work out the sequence number.

Tony Starks

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So, they should have left a space between the first 2 lines and the last 4?

Now, you'll have to excuse my terminology and understanding here. But the first row (138 = 90+4n-4), I'm largely ignoring 4n in the first instance as its just doing 90-4 = 86 which I'm then subtracting from my original number of 138 to give 52.
The 4n is then the term number divided by 4, which is then our sequence number of 13

Tony Starks

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otherman said:
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Then open up (N-1)x4 to 4N-4. Put in any value of N at all and you'll see that this works

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This is whats confusing me

Tony Starks

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Saturday 6th February 2021
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Nice one thanks

Tony Starks

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Saturday 6th February 2021
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One more quick one,

On the 86 + 4n part, is there a rule to say whether its 4 multiplied/divided by n?



StuntmanMike said:
Christ! Are you lot speaking Klingon?

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Pretty much, I left school nearly 30 years with a D grade in maths, so it's pretty hard. I'm foolishly doing a physics course too lol.

One thing we all say is 'I'll never need algebra', but it's all around you. My whole work uses CNCs the run off it. I use the pythagoras therum to work out how measurements to see if things are square.

Tony Starks

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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Indeed. Every time I look at my x, I wonder y.

I remember saying to my maths teacher at school that I'll never need to use algebra once I leave. And she said "you're absolutely right....but the smart kids might".
Ouch rofl

Tony Starks

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Sunday 7th February 2021
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I'm so glad I dont need to program the machines I use rofl

Right, this has me stumped. I cant seem to get the the answer to work out correctly.

Josh has started jogging to keep fit. On the first day he jogs 3 kilometres. Each day he adds 0.5 kilometres to the length of his jog. Josh plans to keep increasing the distance he jogs until he gets to jog 8 kilometres.
How many days will it take for Josh to complete one jog of 8 kilometres?

So I've been using the formula for an Arithmetic Series :
Sn = n/2 [2a + (n-1)d]

As well as the tn = a+(n-1)d formula.

If I write it down, the bow legged muppet will take 11 days to reach 8km.

If I use the tn formula it comes out as 6.5 days to reach 8km.

Edited by Tony Starks on Sunday 7th February 04:11


Edited by Tony Starks on Sunday 7th February 20:47

Tony Starks

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Gary C said:
so where N = number of days

3+[b](0.5 *[b/] (N-1)) = 8 (3 days to start plus number of days multiplied by half a km but day 1 adds nothing so N-1)

3+(0.5*N - 0.5) = 8 (open up inner bracket)

0.5*N - 0.5 = 5 (take 3 from both sides)

0.5 * N = 5.5 (add 0.5 to both sides)

N = 11 (divide both sides by 0.5)

Think this works (im crap at arithmetic despite having a degree in engineering smile )

Edited by Gary C on Sunday 7th February 04:28
you seem to have multiplied here, when the equation is Add? unless theres something I'm missing

Tony Starks

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Sunday 7th February 2021
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Got it, I was assuming 8 was 'n', when in actual fact I technically didn't know this figure. Once I did it like Otherman explained it all fell into place. 'n' was actually 11 - the number of days.

I just need a better understanding of the questions and explanations.

Tony Starks

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Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Thanks for the help so far biggrin

all that seems so easy now lol.

my biggest problem now is factorising Quadratics. I've highlighted the bit I'm stuck on:

How does 'n squared + 15n - 100 =0' turn into '(n+20)(n-5) = 0' ?



Tony Starks

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Wednesday 24th February 2021
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jet_noise said:
Are you allowed to use the quadratic formula?
Yeah, that's what it's part of, I was doing well till this lol

Tony Starks

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Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Halmyre said:
jet_noise said:
Halmyre said:
Solving quadratics:



The bit in red is the quadratic formula - it's really useful.
Even when you get sqrt.(-1)! But that's for the next lesson I think wink

As may be the equation itself.
Tony may "have" to use the factorising method as an aid to understanding the nuts & bolts of how quadratics work before being allowed the formula method.
I don't know why his course has suddenly thrown in quadratic solutions, unless it was a prerequisite of the course. I think it was learned quite early on at my secondary school.
I think this section is working through arithmetic and geometric sequences and series.

Just to confuse you even more, this I think is the NZ version of GCSE or A level , this is all NCEA level 2 and rather than obtaining an A, B or C etc. It's done on credits. I think for this it's worth 4 credits and to get an A+ I need 80 credits.

Working out how they do things over here is worse than quadratic equations

Tony Starks

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Thursday 25th February 2021
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That is Awesome thank you, That equation has not been in the ones I've been given.