OBD2 reader

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Cooper1999

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Monday 17th April 2017
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Let me start by saying I'm an electronic/auto-electric biff!

Firstly - can anyone confirm to me please this is the connection for an OBD2 reader:


I'm building a kit cat - a Mk6 Mini Marcos which I'm building as an MPI (injection) car.
I've rebuilt the engine (1342cc, SW5i cam) and am having problems getting it started.

Now I have the matched ECU/Alarm/Key fob that the Mini/Rover require, but is there a (cheap-ish) OBD2 reader that can work with the Mini/Rover system? I know the Sykes Pickavant units with Mini/Rover module appear on ebay occasionally but these are normally priced at several hundred pounds - beyond my budget at the minute.
As the MM won't start (turns over enough to get the oil light flickering off, and I've got a spark) I'm wondering if one or more of the sensors isn't working.
Is there an easy way of checking the injectors are working correctly (to make sure fuel is getting through)?

Several questions there - I'm hoping someone can suggest where to look next smile

Cooper1999

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322 posts

200 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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MGSteve said:
I don't have any experience with the Mini MPi setup, but certainly on K-series cars the OBD connectors were fitted from the early 90's onwards, but OBD2 compliance wasn't introduced until 2001. So simply having the connector does automatically mean an OBD2 reader will work.

Looking at the ECU I suspect its a MEMS1.6 or 1.9 ECU which isn't OBD2 complaint. OBD2 Compliance was introduced with the MEMS3, and those ECU's are wedge shaped.

If it isn't OBD2 complaint, then it limits the options for diagnostics and rules out most of the very cheap solutions. Most Land rover dealers and some MGR specialist have a T4 testbook that will work, but another alternative I know of is pscan tool, which is a bit more expansive than an OBD2 reader, however if you have a 5AS security ECU it will also allow you to program new key fobs, and also connects to the ABS and air bag ECU's, so does more than an OBD2 reader.
http://www.pscan.eu/
All, sorry for the late response - I only get on here at the weekend.
MGSteve - I think you've identified my problem accurately. From my limited knowledge of the Rover system, they used the OBD11 connection but had dedicated software, hence the Sykes Pickavant dedicated module, which as I say does appear occasionally but is a bit expensive.
I'd hoped in the years since Rover went under there might have been a cheap alternative produced to support these, now older, cars.
As you mention, the ECU isn't wedge shaped - I believe it is the MEMS 2J unit fitted to the mini (I also have a 1999 mini as well as the MM).
I'll have a look at the pscan unit you mention. I do know the key fob needs to be matched (and have a replacement key fob to replace the somewhat worn unit on the MM).
Thanks, All, once again.