Driving Licence confusion.

[Getragdogleg]

Hopefully someone can assist me, I have been having a chat to our lads about 7.5 ton entitlement and who can and can't drive our recovery truck on their licence.

One lad passed his car test in Feb. 1992, he then went on to do the old Class 2 in october 1997.

He has the following entitlements:

B
BE
C
C1E
D1
D1E
fklnp

He thinks he is ok to drive our 7.5 ton truck with a car trailer behind it but I am not so sure, We have the little booklet from VoSA and it's quite hard to tell what he can drive to be honest.

I think the Car licence allows him to drive a vehicle and trailer with a total loaded weight up to 8.25t. but I also think he can only drive a 7.5t lorry with a trailer not exceeding 0.75t.

Does the 1997 pass for the old class 2 cancel the 1992 entitlement or am I confused ?

[Getragdogleg]

mph1977 said:

does his C1E have '107' in the notes column ?

if yes 8250 MTM as a grandfather rights from pre 97 car test

if no 12000 MTM

did he pass class 2 or class 3 under the old system ( as could drive some wagon and drag combinations on a class 2)

C1E has 107 after it
D1 has 101
D1E has 101 and 119.

Class two passed under the old system. passed on the 10-10-97

[Getragdogleg]

R0G said:

He does not have the correct entitlement to tow a trailer over 750 kgs MAM behind a 7.5 tonne lorry

He does have the entitlement to do this -
6 tonner GVW towing a 2.25 MAM trailer = 8250 kgs on his C1+E 107

This means that if the 7.5 only utilses 6 tonnes of its 7.5 at any time then it can be dowplated from 7.5 to 6.0 allowing him to tow a 2250 kgs plated MAM trailer

Hmm, thanks for the excellent work decoding the entitlements !

The bit in bold, would that stretch to mean that if the 7.5 ton lorry was only carrying a light car and the trailer was only carrying a light car and the total loaded weight was less than 8.25t then he would be ok or is it all down to plated max weights ?

[Getragdogleg]

mph1977 said:

Getragdogleg said:

R0G said:

He does not have the correct entitlement to tow a trailer over 750 kgs MAM behind a 7.5 tonne lorry

He does have the entitlement to do this -
6 tonner GVW towing a 2.25 MAM trailer = 8250 kgs on his C1+E 107

This means that if the 7.5 only utilses 6 tonnes of its 7.5 at any time then it can be dowplated from 7.5 to 6.0 allowing him to tow a 2250 kgs plated MAM trailer

Hmm, thanks for the excellent work decoding the entitlements !

The bit in bold, would that stretch to mean that if the 7.5 ton lorry was only carrying a light car and the trailer was only carrying a light car and the total loaded weight was less than 8.25t then he would be ok or is it all down to plated max weights ?

plated weights.

Thought so, I was clutching at straws. This news now means a re-think on two vehicle recovery strategy and that I can basically only put the Artic drivers on it from now on.

What the fk use is a 3/4 ton trailer ? thats sod all. flipping Erde with a minimix and a couple bags of sand on it.

Edited by Getragdogleg on Monday 19th November 22:49