Is an HGV licence required in these circumstances??

[Rockatansky]

Not sure if this is a question for commercial break or sp&l, to I'll start here.....

Imagine a workplace which has a couple of trucks - a bin lorry for example.

The vehicles are used around the site, but that site could most likely be described as a public place a lot of the time, i.e. there are often members of the public there in some numbers.

Numerous staff have up to 7500kg licences courtesy of grandfather rights, but these trucks are 12000kg.

Would the appropriate HGV licence be needed to drive these on site or, because they're not venturing onto the roads, does it not matter?

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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

What have the insurance company that insure the trucks & provide public liability have to say on the matter I wonder?

Good question, but not one I can answer unfortunately.

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Speedyduck said:

I've asked on the professionals forum.

I'll post the responses

Thank you

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LuckyThirteen said:

Not sure what CI5 will have to say on the subject. I suppose they might go and nick the drivers?

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Speedyduck said:

Can I please suggest anyone who might be interested in the 'professionals' responses, take a look on their forum?

Thanks for that. I've read the responses and appreciate my info maybe a little bit vague. I'll take a look at registering there later on to add some more info.

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R0G said:

Does the site have barriers or gates which could be closed ?

Yes.

It's a sports facility, the gates are locked overnight but open during the day. There are businesses on site as well as activities involving members of the public most days. For most weekends during the summer weekend entry is by ticket only.

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R0G said:

That is PRIVATE not public so no driving laws apply

Thank you.

I wasn't too sure how it would be interpreted. I'm well aware that it's private land, but not sure if it could be found to be a public place.

I just don't fancy being the guy that finds out in court.

Driving a bin lorry or flatbed hiab through thousands of people can focus your mind.....

[Rockatansky]

Thanks for the continued input.

I've no idea about what the risk assessments say or, indeed, if they exist.

[Rockatansky]

Definitely out of my depth here, but is an operators licence needed for a recovery vehicle that never sees the road, and a bin lorry that goes to be emptied maybe once a month?