Apparently we are antisocial bastards...

Apparently we are antisocial bastards...

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Prof Beard

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Tuesday 20th December 2005
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The Guardians resident green nazi is at it again:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/columnist/story/0,932

There's already a thread on this on SafeSpeed, and as I said on there:

The man is, IMHO, an idiot. The implication that libertarianism is a right wing point of view, is incorrect, ignorant, and, to a left-wing libertarian such as myself, offensive.

As a Gruaniad reader, I'm appalled that a paper which is normally "liberal" (with a small "L" ) should give this man, who basically a green fascist of worst sort, space to print such specious authoritarian nonsense.

Still, as has already been said, if he has resorted to name-calling he must be rattled!

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>> Edited by Prof Beard on Tuesday 20th December 17:18

Prof Beard

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Tuesday 20th December 2005
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DJ111S said:
Is this a revelation?!


Obviously not, but this is pretty awful even by his standards, he usually tries to wrap up his nonsense in "reasoned argument" - this is just abuse.

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Prof Beard

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derestrictor said:

The reason old Monibutt is flapping so is because he knows that his unfortunate, elbow padded take on how things should be, is shared by few people outside of the university lecturers' common room.


Hang on! An awful lot of academics think he is an ahole too! Please don't tar us with the same brush - I said what I thought in the opening post!

Prof Beard

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Tuesday 20th December 2005
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derestrictor said:
Sorry, Prof, knew you were a brown shirt, really!


Actually, at the moment most of my shirts are dark blue (unlike my politics ) - I do have brown leather coat - will that suffice?

Prof Beard

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Wednesday 21st December 2005
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moparmick said:
Perhaps we could put him in a room with David Starkey, that might be interesting


With what choice of weapons?

Prof Beard

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Wednesday 4th January 2006
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In a average size town, like the one I live in, buses can be very useful. I have a bus stop at the end of our road which takes me into the town centre. As, in the town centre, there is a stop outside my local, it is very useful as a means of not drinking and driving or getting royally scrd by a taxi company. I also use it to go into town shopping when I don't need the the car to lug stuff home - costs less than parking the car...

Basically if they go somewhere useful they're a good thing, if they don't they're not. No replavement for a car, but useful nevertheless

Prof Beard

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Wednesday 4th January 2006
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havoc said:
Just read the article, just skipped to p.7. And I can't believe that this man exists???

Does he not care about these 'personal freedoms' that he, as a left-wing person, is SUPPOSED to champion???

In short, what a hypocritical little *&%$£&@£*&%^&£@:£^$*"


He's NOT left-wing (by the terms of any real left-winger - anyone who tries to lump me with this tt is asking for fisticuffs!) he's an "eco-fascist", or perhaps more accurately what you called him yourself.

Prof Beard

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Wednesday 4th January 2006
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Don said:
Prof Beard said:
Basically if they go somewhere useful they're a good thing, if they don't they're not. No replacement for a car, but useful nevertheless


But I live in a modern Estate. With narrowed chicanes to prevent anyone from driving too quickly. Buses cannot get through 'em. It was designed such that public transport could not get to my house. Presumably because they assumed that since the houses were going to be pricey everyone there would also be able to afford a car.


Classic example of "Planning" at its most penguin-brained. Mind you we have a couple of modern estates of the pricier type here that DON'T have access issues for buses and the residents don't make use of them. I watch them driving home from the pub every night in droves... (Perhaps a joint exercise of publicising the services coupled with some random breath-testing would help...)

Twincam16 said:

So why do they have to be so big, dirty and thirsty? Why can't they have seatbelts and be comfy to travel in?


They don't, most of ours are minibus based or a bit bigger, there are virtually no full-sized ones - and many are reasonably comfortable. No seatbelts though - mind you I suspect they would become a pain in the butt on a busy bus doing short runs with lots of stops. (This is Arriva as well - if they can do it anyone can)

Prof Beard

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Wednesday 4th January 2006
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havoc said:

...god, I'm sounding like JagLover...what's going on?!?


"Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war?" Shakespeare init? (Might have mis-quoted a bit)