2018 Pre-Season Thread
Discussion
January is over and F1 2018 starts this month! So, shamelessly inspired by ukaskew's 2017 pre-season thread, here is the 2018 F1 pre-season testing, car reveals, news, and speculation thread.
Regulations
2018 FIA Sporting and Technical Regulations
Key Sporting Regulations Changes
Three Engines per driver per season
The number of engines has been reduced from four last year, while the number of Grands Prix has increased to twenty-one.
Faster, less durable tyres
In response to criticism that they were too conservative with their tyre compounds in 2017 leading to many one-stop races, Pirelli have made their existing tyre range one step softer across the board. They have also bookended their range with two new tyres- a pink marked 'Ultrasoft' and an orange 'Superhard'. The 'Hard' tyre, which used to be orange, is now blue.
Key Technical Regulations Changes
Chassis
Reduction in static front ride height from the straight ahead steering position to full lock in either direction is now limited to 5mm.
Bodywork
Areas left open for development in 2017 which resulted in shark fins and T-wings are no longer available.
Safety
The 'Halo' safety device is now mandatory. The Halo may carry aerodynamic devices and fairings provided they do not extend more than 20mm from the structure.
Weight
Minimum car weight (including driver) has been increased by 6kg to 734kg.
Winter Testing
Confirmed Driver Line-Ups
Car Launch
Provisional Calendar
Tyre Allocations
In-season Testing
Other Calendar Events
UK TV Rights
Sky TV - All sessions live. HD and Ultra HD, subscription service, no adverts during race.
Channel 4 - 10 races (inc. practice and qualifying) live negotiated with Sky. Highlights of all other races. HD, free to air, no adverts during race.
Regulations
2018 FIA Sporting and Technical Regulations
Key Sporting Regulations Changes
Three Engines per driver per season
The number of engines has been reduced from four last year, while the number of Grands Prix has increased to twenty-one.
Faster, less durable tyres
In response to criticism that they were too conservative with their tyre compounds in 2017 leading to many one-stop races, Pirelli have made their existing tyre range one step softer across the board. They have also bookended their range with two new tyres- a pink marked 'Ultrasoft' and an orange 'Superhard'. The 'Hard' tyre, which used to be orange, is now blue.
Key Technical Regulations Changes
Chassis
Reduction in static front ride height from the straight ahead steering position to full lock in either direction is now limited to 5mm.
Bodywork
Areas left open for development in 2017 which resulted in shark fins and T-wings are no longer available.
Safety
The 'Halo' safety device is now mandatory. The Halo may carry aerodynamic devices and fairings provided they do not extend more than 20mm from the structure.
Weight
Minimum car weight (including driver) has been increased by 6kg to 734kg.
Winter Testing
Date | Circuit |
---|---|
Feb 26-Mar 1 | Barcelona, Spain |
Mar 6-9 | Barcelona, Spain |
Confirmed Driver Line-Ups
Team | Driver | Driver |
---|---|---|
Mercedes | Lewis Hamilton | Valtteri Bottas |
Ferrari | Sebastian Vettel | Kimi Raikkonen |
Red Bull | Daniel Ricciardo | Max Verstappen |
Force India | Sergio Perez | Esteban Ocon |
Williams | Lance Stroll | Sergey Sirotkin |
Renault | Carlos Sainz | Nico Hulkenburg |
Toro Rosso | Brendon Hartley | Pierre Gasly |
Haas | Romain Grosjean | Kevin Magnussen |
McLaren | Fernando Alonso | Stoffel Vandoorne |
Sauber | Marcus Ericsson | Charles Leclerc |
Car Launch
Entrant | Constructor | Designation | Power Unit | Date | Location |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Williams Martini Racing | Williams | FW41 | Mercedes | February 15 | London |
Aston Martin Red Bull Racing | Red Bull | RB14 | TAG Heuer | February 19 | TBC |
Renault Sport Formula One Team | Renault | R.S.18 | Renault | February 20 | Online |
Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team | Sauber | C37 | Ferrari | February 20 | Online |
Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport | Mercedes | W09 EQ Power+ | Mercedes | February 22 | Silverstone |
Scuderia Ferrari | Ferrari | TBC | Ferrari | February 22 | Online |
Mclaren F1 Team | McLaren | MCL33 | Renault | February 23 | TBC |
Scuderia Toro Rosso | Red Bull Toro Rosso | TBC | Honda | February 26 | Barcelona |
Sahara Force India F1 Team | Force India | TBC | Mercedes | TBC | TBC |
Haas F1 Team | Haas | VF-18 | Ferrari | TBC | TBC |
Provisional Calendar
Date | Circuit | Sky F1 | Channel 4 |
---|---|---|---|
March 25 | Melbourne, Australia | Y | |
April 8 | Bahrain, Bahrain | Y | Y |
April 15 | Shanghai, China | Y | |
April 29 | Baku, Azerbaijan | Y | Y |
May 13 | Barcelona, Spain | Y | |
May 27 | Monte Carlo, Monaco | Y | Y |
June 10 | Montreal, Canada | Y | |
June 24 | Le Castellet, France | Y | |
July 1 | Spielberg, Austria | Y | Y |
July 8 | Silverstone, Great Britain | Y | Y |
July 22 | Hockenheim, Germany | Y | |
July 29 | Budapest, Hungary | Y | |
August 26 | Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium | Y | Y |
September 2 | Monza, Italy | Y | |
September 16 | Singapore, Singapore | Y | Y |
September 30 | Sochi, Russia | Y | |
October 7 | Suzuka, Japan | Y | Y |
October 21 | Austin, USA | Y | Y |
October 28 | Mexico City, Mexico | Y | |
November 11 | Sao Paulo, Brazil | Y | |
November 25 | Abu Dhabi, UAE | Y | Y |
Tyre Allocations
In-season Testing
Date | Circuit |
---|---|
May 15-16 | Barcelona, Spain |
July 31 - August 1 | Budapest, Hungary |
Other Calendar Events
- Indy 500 May 27
- Le Mans 24hr June 16-17
- Goodwood Festival of Speed July 12-15
- Goodwood Revival September 7-9
UK TV Rights
Sky TV - All sessions live. HD and Ultra HD, subscription service, no adverts during race.
Channel 4 - 10 races (inc. practice and qualifying) live negotiated with Sky. Highlights of all other races. HD, free to air, no adverts during race.
Edited by HustleRussell on Monday 12th February 13:54
Bonus points to Vaud and NM62 for mustering a glimmer of optimism and positivity about the coming season.
People are flipping pessimistic about F1 for 2018- seems the realisation of Halo, the Sky exclusive deal and now the exclusion of grid girls have conspired to create a lot of negativity around the sport which is regrettable.
IMO there are lots of reasons to be cheerful, and 2017 was the best season we’ve had possibly since 2010 (or ’13)?
People are flipping pessimistic about F1 for 2018- seems the realisation of Halo, the Sky exclusive deal and now the exclusion of grid girls have conspired to create a lot of negativity around the sport which is regrettable.
IMO there are lots of reasons to be cheerful, and 2017 was the best season we’ve had possibly since 2010 (or ’13)?
- Liberty Media are more inclusive and more transparent. They seem to have a big-picture view and they also appear to have some scruples. They are more proactive and they are investing.
- On-demand broadcast platform, a big step into the 21st century
- Ross Brawn is heading a team which for the first time ever is scrutinising the regulations with a view to sorting out dirty air and the 2021 regulations overhaul
- Debates are taking part with teams and engine manufacturers past , present and possibly future to ensure competition on and off the track
- Distribution of funds is being proactively discussed hence the inevitable sabre-rattling of the wealthier teams (which you must see through)
- Mercedes are no longer runaway winners every time
- Resurgence of Mclaren?
- Four champions on the grid with 11x championships between them
- Exciting new driving talent in Charles Leclerc, Kubica back in a car, a number of other fresh faces compared to the beginning of the 2017 season
- Depth of driving talent is as good or better than it’s ever been
- Cars are faster than ever in real terms and they are set to go whole seconds faster again this season
- Penalties must remain but they have been simplified for this season
- French and German Grands Prix are back
ash73 said:
HustleRussell said:
- On-demand broadcast platform, a big step into the 21st century
ash73 said:
Scrutinse, debate, discuss... let's see some action.
On the contrary- No! enough of the knee-jerk sticking plaster solutions. Remember elimination qualifying? Double points Abu Dhabi? What about DRS? There is some talent looking to tackle the fundamental flaws of modern grand prix racing. IMO 2017 was a good season so radical and immediate change would be detrimental. predictions;
Ferrari, Mclaren and Williams will be grandstanding in pre-season testing but they will flatter to deceive.
Mercedes are once again going to turn up with a near perfect balance of power and reliability and they won’t suffer the early season troubles they experienced in 2017. They will be a force to be reckoned with especially in qualifying. With a winter for reflection and an easier car to drive, Bottas will start to deliver and will be a closer match for Hamilton.
Ferrari and Red Bull will be separated from Mercedes by a small margin of a couple of tenths and will fight amongst themselves resulting in significant carbon shed. However as the season goes on it will transpire that these teams are better on tyre wear and often race pace than Mercedes which will make the whole thing more interesting with softer tyres, more stops and pit strategy.
The gap between the top three teams and Force India will generally be filled with Mclarens and Renaults, who will take it in turns to nip at the heels of the lead pack.
The Williams will be placed anywhere in the bottom twelve or so depending on the circuit, prevailing wind and whether either of their drivers are having a good day.
Haas will have an unspectacular season with a difficult car redeemed to some degree by their driver line-up which is the better of Williams and best of the remaining teams I haven’t yet mentioned.
Sauber at the back will be closer to the midfield than before and it’ll be a close-run thing between them and Toro Rosso. Maybe Toro Rosso will suffer the indignity of a whole season without points, while Sauber nab one or two capitalising on reliability problems and late-season grid penalties for Honda and Renault powered cars.
Constructors
Mercedes
Red Bull
Ferrari
Mclaren
Renault
Force India
Haas
Williams
Sauber
Toro Rosso
Drivers
Hamilton
Bottas
Vettel
Verstappen
Ricciardo
Raikkonen
Alonso
Saintz
Vandoorne
Ocon
Perez
Hulkenberg
Grosjean
Sirotkin
Stroll
Magnussen
Gasly
Leclerc
Hartley
Ericsson
Ferrari, Mclaren and Williams will be grandstanding in pre-season testing but they will flatter to deceive.
Mercedes are once again going to turn up with a near perfect balance of power and reliability and they won’t suffer the early season troubles they experienced in 2017. They will be a force to be reckoned with especially in qualifying. With a winter for reflection and an easier car to drive, Bottas will start to deliver and will be a closer match for Hamilton.
Ferrari and Red Bull will be separated from Mercedes by a small margin of a couple of tenths and will fight amongst themselves resulting in significant carbon shed. However as the season goes on it will transpire that these teams are better on tyre wear and often race pace than Mercedes which will make the whole thing more interesting with softer tyres, more stops and pit strategy.
The gap between the top three teams and Force India will generally be filled with Mclarens and Renaults, who will take it in turns to nip at the heels of the lead pack.
The Williams will be placed anywhere in the bottom twelve or so depending on the circuit, prevailing wind and whether either of their drivers are having a good day.
Haas will have an unspectacular season with a difficult car redeemed to some degree by their driver line-up which is the better of Williams and best of the remaining teams I haven’t yet mentioned.
Sauber at the back will be closer to the midfield than before and it’ll be a close-run thing between them and Toro Rosso. Maybe Toro Rosso will suffer the indignity of a whole season without points, while Sauber nab one or two capitalising on reliability problems and late-season grid penalties for Honda and Renault powered cars.
Constructors
Mercedes
Red Bull
Ferrari
Mclaren
Renault
Force India
Haas
Williams
Sauber
Toro Rosso
Drivers
Hamilton
Bottas
Vettel
Verstappen
Ricciardo
Raikkonen
Alonso
Saintz
Vandoorne
Ocon
Perez
Hulkenberg
Grosjean
Sirotkin
Stroll
Magnussen
Gasly
Leclerc
Hartley
Ericsson
Gaz. said:
The pecking order and how it unfolds is interesting, I don't share the optimism of Mclaren, I think they are going to be slaughtered by RBR and soundly beat by Renault. I think Ferrari have shot their bolt with the suspension fannying about of last season which wrong-footed Merc and RBR, this year both have cars as intended. I'm fascinated to see how Torro Rosso get on, my word I'll laugh like a drain if they piss all over Mclaren.
I can't wait for testing and I think we're in for a belter of a season- well fans of the sport are, the sky is falling "oh if only it was 1986, where's Diana" brigade will never be satisfied but they are fking off at the end of the season anyway so it's all gravy baby.
That’s the spirit! I can't wait for testing and I think we're in for a belter of a season- well fans of the sport are, the sky is falling "oh if only it was 1986, where's Diana" brigade will never be satisfied but they are fking off at the end of the season anyway so it's all gravy baby.
I agree that Ferrari aren’t going to create the kind of opportunity they wasted last season, but I think both they and Red Bull will challenge Mercedes at times. I just think that the reliability of Mercedes’ cars and drivers will be the difference. If you’re Daniel Ricciardo and you’re starting on the 3rd row with Vettel to your right, Verstappen immediately in front and maybe a Sainz and Ocon behind you’re probably not going to get through the first corner unscathed 21 times.
I really agonised over the McLaren / Renault order in my prediction, Alonso was my key decisive factor there- Sainz is going to be driving out of his skin in an effort to embarrass Hülkenberg and I don’t think he’s beyond the odd mistake here and there. Also I didn’t want to underestimate Vandoorne.
Edited by HustleRussell on Thursday 8th February 11:02
Well they get a current Ferrari engine and Charles Leclerc for a start. It’s a shame that the wrong driver made way for him though. They’ve had a cash injection and Frédéric Vasseur‘s continuous stewardship going into 2018. Sauber certainly won’t be some distance off the back of the grid as they were at the start of 2017. There is a question of who is going to be the slowest team, it could just as easily be Toro Rosso IMO.
Having just watched the McLaren 2017 documentary I was surprised by how much Toro Rosso's working environment contrasts with Mclaren's, bit of a climb down for those Honda personnel.
Did the Honda engine sound different to you? hard to tell of course being that it was just idling. Thought it sounded smoother.
Williams launching their car at 8pm...
Did the Honda engine sound different to you? hard to tell of course being that it was just idling. Thought it sounded smoother.
Williams launching their car at 8pm...
Gunter Steiner: 2018 Haas is 90% made in Italy
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I was listening to the Autosport Podcast earlier today, I was surprised to hear others are going to copy Mercedes with their LWB philosophy rather than the other way round.
I thought they were supposed to meet somewhere in the middle; now that the teams understand the characteristics of the new for 2017 big tyres and increased aero they can optimise their 2017 efforts into the 2018 car. Mercedes left a load of space in their 2017 car so that they had lots of flexibility with setup (ballast location etc I suppose) so they can now compact it all down, while other teams who built a shorter wheelbase car for 2017 to keep the weight down probably have a better handle on the weight situation now and can increase their wheelbase to their own optimum. Nice post Cardshark, good to see some optimism in the F1 forum as for the whole of the off-season it has been dominated by pessimists piss-and-moaning about halo, broadcasting, grid girls and other distractions.
My impatience for the start of the season seems to increase year on year.
My impatience for the start of the season seems to increase year on year.
suffolk009 said:
I'd be happy if they just painted it properly orange.
last year's livery was a proper miss IMO. The colour grew on me but the 'speedmark' thing didn't. It needs to be solid, proper papaya like Bruce's old cars from 50 years ago. That's if these Bahrainis have got some taste and can resist the temptation to add a load of chintzy gimmicks and metal flake and st. There's been some activity around the remnants of the Brabham company on social media in recent weeks. Force India are still yet to reveal anything about their new name and their livery. A change of ownership of Force India was mooted in the summer and the Brabham company were linked to those rumours...
Meanwhile of the 2018 car Sergio Perez says he's "seen some colours"
Meanwhile of the 2018 car Sergio Perez says he's "seen some colours"
As always you can’t really deduce a thing from day 1 of test 1 with certainty.
The cars have been remarkably reliable so far. Mclaren, despite Renault, have still managed to end the day with the wooden spoon for reliability.
Unsurprisingly the Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull look the most sorted.
FI seem to have slipped back massively this year.
Honda engine is massively improved, looks like they will be fighting for mid-table positions.
Sauber as expected near the back.Waaaaay too early to say. Force India have Nikita Mazepin in the car. Toro Rosso Honda might simply be trying harder than everybody else- the PU might be as inefficient, underpowered and undrivable as ever for all we know. At least it hasn’t shaken the Toro Rosso to pieces yet.
The cars have been remarkably reliable so far. Mclaren, despite Renault, have still managed to end the day with the wooden spoon for reliability.
Unsurprisingly the Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull look the most sorted.
NRS said:
FI seem to have slipped back massively this year.
Honda engine is massively improved, looks like they will be fighting for mid-table positions.
Sauber as expected near the back.
Was wondering what was going on with Red Bull, seems they've lost most of their morning with a fuel leak.
Gary Anderson on the Autosport podcast has observed Alonso trying to get past Hartley in the Toro Rosso yesterday and failing as it was too fast in a straight line. Not sure if he was just trying to heighten the irony, if not that is hilarious and frustrating at the same time.
Gary Anderson on the Autosport podcast has observed Alonso trying to get past Hartley in the Toro Rosso yesterday and failing as it was too fast in a straight line. Not sure if he was just trying to heighten the irony, if not that is hilarious and frustrating at the same time.
LordGrover said:
HustleRussell said:
Apparently the Mercedes looks pretty tricky compared to the Ferrari, Red Bull and Mclaren
In this context, what do you mean by tricky?Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff