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After following F1 for decades there are moments in time which stick in our memories. These can be total excitement or tragic events but they are all what F1 was about.
Are there any stories which you would like to share along with footage or just an incident or race which you have strong memories about.
To start off I found two interesting video's posted by fan's which I always feel are the best.
Yes the footage is not up to 2018 standards but still worth the watch.
Imola testing March 10th 1994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvJyAj1xHkQ&t=...
Imola race day May 1st 1994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Ta1JQKvoE&t=...
Are there any stories which you would like to share along with footage or just an incident or race which you have strong memories about.
To start off I found two interesting video's posted by fan's which I always feel are the best.
Yes the footage is not up to 2018 standards but still worth the watch.
Imola testing March 10th 1994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvJyAj1xHkQ&t=...
Imola race day May 1st 1994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Ta1JQKvoE&t=...
bakerstreet said:
Four major events stand out for me Not in any particualr order.
Senna's crash. I watched that race live.
Nigel Mansell crossing the line to win the British Grand Prix in 1992. He was at the height of his popularity at that point and there was a track invasion of epic proportions.
Damon Hill winning the championship in 96. Probably the most emotional I have ever felt watching F1. Murrey Walker's commentary was probably a major factor in that emotion as he struggled to hold his emotions together.
Jenson Button Candian GP win. Think the coverage was an epic 7hrs and commentators were struggling a bit for content towards the end
Nice one. Many great memories there Senna's crash. I watched that race live.
Nigel Mansell crossing the line to win the British Grand Prix in 1992. He was at the height of his popularity at that point and there was a track invasion of epic proportions.
Damon Hill winning the championship in 96. Probably the most emotional I have ever felt watching F1. Murrey Walker's commentary was probably a major factor in that emotion as he struggled to hold his emotions together.
Jenson Button Candian GP win. Think the coverage was an epic 7hrs and commentators were struggling a bit for content towards the end
Mansell 1992 British GP last laps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc4Orp78EFk
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 21st March 10:29
Eric Mc said:
There have been plenty of "nice" (and sad) moments since 2000, but the ones that really affected me all date from before then.
Sadly, a lot of these pre 2000 moments were related to driver fatalities, so it's probably just as well that the racing after 2000 has been a lot less traumatic.
Also, as one gets older, one does not put so much store on sports personalities. I don't follow football with the passion I did when I was 10 years old. I certainly don't follow F1 with the same passion either. Indeed, I am finding the current era bland in the extreme. But when the drivers are young enough to be your grandchildren (let alone children), it's hard to look on them as "heroes".
Having just had a very pleasant weekend watch the action from Goodwood, it does help remind me why I fell in love with motorsport as a child.
Agree totally with your points.Sadly, a lot of these pre 2000 moments were related to driver fatalities, so it's probably just as well that the racing after 2000 has been a lot less traumatic.
Also, as one gets older, one does not put so much store on sports personalities. I don't follow football with the passion I did when I was 10 years old. I certainly don't follow F1 with the same passion either. Indeed, I am finding the current era bland in the extreme. But when the drivers are young enough to be your grandchildren (let alone children), it's hard to look on them as "heroes".
Having just had a very pleasant weekend watch the action from Goodwood, it does help remind me why I fell in love with motorsport as a child.
Goodwood looks amazing.
Really need to make the trip.
Leithen said:
Amazing.Must be "along with Moss" the best driver never to win a Championship.
mcholeboy_59 said:
Burti - Spa - 2001
This was the one crash i'll never forget, only just started watching f1 at the start of 2001 and to an 11 year old me, it was horrific.
i remember the helicopter orbiting over the crash and the marshals pulling the tyres back to see burti motionless and slumped over, still gives me goosebumps now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjINHKQ1v_0
Remember watch that too live. Seeing Irvine running across just shows he was thinking it was bad.This was the one crash i'll never forget, only just started watching f1 at the start of 2001 and to an 11 year old me, it was horrific.
i remember the helicopter orbiting over the crash and the marshals pulling the tyres back to see burti motionless and slumped over, still gives me goosebumps now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjINHKQ1v_0
Amazing the strength of the car even then as a decade earlier and he would have been either serious or dead.
Eric Mc said:
Villeneuve and Arnoux in France.
Senna and Mansell in Spain.
Mansell at Silverstone 1987.
Rosberg's qulaifying lap at Silverstone in 1985.
The 1982 Monaco GP
Daly flying a Tyrrell at Monaco in 1980.
Seeing Daly demonstrate an F1 Ensign in the Phoenix Park Dublin in 1978.
Nice list Senna and Mansell in Spain.
Mansell at Silverstone 1987.
Rosberg's qulaifying lap at Silverstone in 1985.
The 1982 Monaco GP
Daly flying a Tyrrell at Monaco in 1980.
Seeing Daly demonstrate an F1 Ensign in the Phoenix Park Dublin in 1978.
The full race itself was not that exciting but the end sure was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZ0wv1I8yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZ0wv1I8yc
Eric Mc said:
I wasn't that young (39) by that time but that certainly was an exciting - and frustrating - race. I'd also put in Hill's win at Spa in the Jordan as being a great memory. Indeed, the whole race was a bit of an event. Will be 20 years ago this year.
Regarding sportsmanship (or rather the decline in it), I would cite Ayrton Senna as a major influence in this area - followed by Michael Schumacher. Both these guys certainly increased the drama aspect, especially Senna, but at the expense of the "sporting" aspect of the sport.
One other factor that would prevent an Arnoux/Villeneuve type "ding -dongs" today is the fact that contact of that nature would almost definitely break too many aerodynamic protuberances - rendering the car uncompetitive if not putting it out of the race.
That was the complex nature of Senna.Regarding sportsmanship (or rather the decline in it), I would cite Ayrton Senna as a major influence in this area - followed by Michael Schumacher. Both these guys certainly increased the drama aspect, especially Senna, but at the expense of the "sporting" aspect of the sport.
One other factor that would prevent an Arnoux/Villeneuve type "ding -dongs" today is the fact that contact of that nature would almost definitely break too many aerodynamic protuberances - rendering the car uncompetitive if not putting it out of the race.
In one moment he would take someone out due to behind the scene's politics "Prost" but then stop to help "and in Erik Comas words" saved the life of Erik after a nasty shunt at Spa.
It was clear at the Imola 94 weekend he was deeply troubled by the accident of Barrichello and then the death of Ratzenberger.
It was mentioned Senna had an Austrian flag with him in the Williams when he died during the race.
Very complex individual.
I remember this race being loopy due to the horrendous weather conditions.
Thought the battle between Kubica and Massa was as good as I have seen in a long time.
Amazed this is not shown more as the skill level and desire to win the battle is fantastic.
Perhaps the reason is it was for minor points.
It would be red flagged now which is another huge issue with F1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnxUu36-uYw
Thought the battle between Kubica and Massa was as good as I have seen in a long time.
Amazed this is not shown more as the skill level and desire to win the battle is fantastic.
Perhaps the reason is it was for minor points.
It would be red flagged now which is another huge issue with F1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnxUu36-uYw
Eric Mc said:
I actually don't think he was that complex. When it came to racing - especially dealing with drivers he thought were a threat - he was ruthless. That was consistent whether it was dealing with them on track or dealing with them behind the scenes. Part of the reason he was so antagonistic towards Prost was because he was both a threat on track and was probably even better at the behind the scenes manipulation stuff.
Off track or in circumstances where he wasn't under threat of being beaten - he was extremely caring and magnanimous.
Yes agree totally. Off track or in circumstances where he wasn't under threat of being beaten - he was extremely caring and magnanimous.
yoshisdad said:
First F1 race I watched from start to finish was Monaco 1988. Senna way out in the lead, Prost finally gets past Berger and starts putting in fast laps. Senna distracted by this, puts it in to the barrier. These psychological games made me a big fan of Prost, and even bigger fan of McLaren and engendered a life long love of F1.
The two greatest drivers of their generation in the best car of its generation makes 1988 very special.
This is the biggest disappointment with F1.The two greatest drivers of their generation in the best car of its generation makes 1988 very special.
You will never get the two best drivers in F1 in the same team.
In the modern era this is why we see Kimi being retained at Ferrari and Bottas at Mercedes but it has been going on for years.
Clearly Mercedes had enough of the Rosberg/Hamilton battles so are happy to have someone who can score points towards the teams Championship but not upset the apple cart.
Eric Mc said:
That level of intensity does seem to be absent now. Maybe that's not all bad. Senna raised the "tenseness" to a level never seen before or since.
Senna was no angel that is for sure but Prost was being helped massively by Jean-Marie Balestre.Very toxic situation but fantastic for the sport.
I personally feel if this was to return, F1's fan base would increase ten fold.
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