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The Moose

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Sunday 25th March 2018
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There's a lot of bhing and moaning on here about the halo.

You know what, whilst I don't like it, I don't particularly dislike it either. Granted we are only 1 weekend through the season but it hasn't detracted from my enjoyment of the race weekend one little bit.

(and no, I'm not Stevie Wonder!)

The Moose

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Monday 26th March 2018
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Technically I’ve found it incredible that they’ve been able to put an upright smack bang in front of the driver and not caused a load of accidents (yet!!).

I haven’t found it impacting my ability to view the track from the onboard shots either.

The Moose

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Monday 26th March 2018
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sgtBerbatov said:
Blaster72 said:
PhantomPH said:
You'll be waiting a long time. Based on the weekend's evidence, the cars won't be near each other in order to cause a crash. wink

All joking aside - when was the last time you saw a crash that would have 'tested' such a device? In this modern era, I cannot remember a time when (with notable exceptions included that have already been established the halo would not have helped) there was encroachment into the drivers' head area enough to have justified such a device.

Even Botas blasting into the barrier and obliterating his car, didn't result in wheels etc flying around.

F1 contains risks. It's optional - if you don't accept those risks, then don't drive. I remember Mansell back in the day saying that drivers knew that every time they set foot in a car, it my be their last. Things have moved on soooo much since then, it's great - but the toilet seat is a step too far. it is very much 'safety' for safety's sake.

Anyway...grumpy old man ramble ramble ramble.
Jules Bianchi may have survived if such a device was installed.
Jules Bianchi was a completely freak accident. You can say that having the halo would've saved him, but if he had actually slowed down in the double yellow flag waved sector he could also be alive. So shall we reduce the speeds of the car as well? Plus the only accident like that you could compare it to would be Tom Pryce's fatal accident in the 70's. So are two freak accidents worth the flip flop on the car?

Also, for the safety device, I think it'd be 1998/1999 when they introduce wheel teathers after the poor mashall got killed by one flying from a car. The initial version didn't work. Now, however, it's very rare that a wheel flies off a car completely.
In my opinion, his accident was not a freak accident at all! He cocked up and he paid the (very heavy) price for it.

The Moose

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Saturday 19th May 2018
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It wouldn't surprise me if someone sticks that crash into a computer model and determine what impact the halo did (or didn't!) have.

Would be rather interesting to see.

The Moose

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Thursday 25th April 2019
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kambites said:
True. The solution to that one had to be to make sure there was nothing nondeformable and heavy anywhere near the track while the cars were running at any sort of speed.
The solution to Bianchi’s crash was not to push so hard under double waved yellows. It was stupid and irresponsible. A shame it had such a tragic outcome. Now, anytime a vehicle is being recovered it’s a SC. Because the drivers can’t be trusted to stick to the rules.

The Moose

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Tuesday 4th June 2019
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budgie smuggler said:
Indycar are to use a halo/screen hybrid next year.

Looks pretty good to me and should carry the benefits of both.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqAWdmkqe74
Looks like the worst of all worlds to me??