The Official 2018 Singapore Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**
Discussion
Date(s): Friday 14th September - Sunday 16th September 2018
Session Timings
Local
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Uk
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UK TV Time
Circuit
When was the track built?
The Marina Bay Circuit arrived on the scene in 2008. A street track with the city's famous skyline as its spectacular backdrop, the initial circuit plan by Herman Tilke was refined by KBR Inc, while the event has quickly established itself as one of the standouts on the F1 calendar.
When was its first Grand Prix?
In 2008, Singapore had the honour of hosting the first night-time race in F1 history. The Grand Prix – the 15th round of that season – proved a huge hit with the teams and drivers, while Renault’s Fernando Alonso claimed a controversial victory.
What’s the circuit like?
The 5.073km Marina Bay Circuit is one of the most physically demanding on the calendar, its bumpy street surface coupled with humid conditions giving the drivers plenty to think about. With 23 corners, they are working the wheel a lot, too, around the high-speed lap – the physical stress causing them to lose as much as 3kg over the course of a race. The circuit also boasts some of the most unique features of any track on the F1 calendar, including Turn 18, which actually sees the drivers pass underneath a grandstand.
Changes for 2018
Live Timing
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html
Lap times, PU component use, technical reports and Stewards' decisions for the weekend will appear here:
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-c...
Tyres
For 2018 Pirelli will bring to Marina Bay three tyres from the softer end of their ‘rainbow’ of available colours.
These are the yellow-striped Soft, purple-striped Ultrasoft and new-for-2018 pink-striped Hypersoft compounds. This combination has not previously been seen at any race this season; the Hypersofts have been used only in Monaco and Canada.
Weather (looking wet)
http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Singapore/S...
2017 Quailfying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSkMBM3P7i8
Pole Lap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhM_04gQQkk
Race Highlights A night race in the rain, what could possibly go wrong...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAOMOmsqpUY
The 2017 race: Lewis thanks his lucky stars
Singapore may have been celebrating its 10th F1 birthday, but Lewis Hamilton decided he would keep most of the presents for himself.
The 33-year-old Englishman claimed his third Marina Bay Street Circuit victory, his seventh of 2017 and the 60th of his Formula 1 career to move 28 points ahead of championship rival Sebastian Vettel.
Vettel’s Ferrari had started from pole position but the German’s race was over within a few hundred metres. As Red Bull’s Max Verstappen tried to force his way between Vettel and his Ferrari team-mate Kimi Räikkönen the Dutch driver found himself with nowhere to go: he and Räikkönen were out instantly, while Vettel spun into retirement just seconds later.
Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth, Hamilton brought his Mercedes through from the third row to take the race lead which would be his until the end of a race shortened to 58 laps.
Before the race Hamilton had said he needed a miracle and he was quick to acknowledge his good fortune. “God blessed me today for sure,” said the 32-year-old Briton. “I capitalised on the incident – who would ever have known that would happen?”
Daniel Ricciardo’s Red Bull gave chase but could never get within striking distance, leaving the Australian to come home second for the third year in a row at Marina Bay. “I can’t win the bloody thing!” said Ricciardo in jest, “But I’m trying!”
Third, rounding off a superb day for Mercedes, was Valtteri Bottas, the Finn helping propel Mercedes into a lead of more than 100 points from Ferrari in the constructors’ standings as the three-pointed star continued its relentless pursuit of a fourth consecutive double title success.
Hamilton was not the only driver to profit from the early chaos: Carlos Sainz, in his last year with Toro Rosso, took his best-ever finish in fourth place ahead of Sergio Perez’s Force India, Jolyon Palmer, dropped by Renault for 2018 to make way for Sainz, achieved his best F1 result in sixth, and Stoffel Vandoorne’s McLaren was eighth to give the Belgian his own highest finish.
With the race ending at the two-hour limit after 58 of the scheduled 61 laps, only 12 cars finished, the lowest in Singapore’s first decade as a Grand Prix venue. Hamilton sweetened his day even further with a new lap record of 1 minute 45.008 seconds and summed it all up in one sentence.
“I needed it to rain,” he said, “and as soon as it began to rain I knew where I would finish.”
Session Timings
Local
|https://thumbsnap.com/hF3TWnLt[/url]Uk
|https://thumbsnap.com/9h0z3MvA[/url]UK TV Time
| Session | Day | Sky F1 | Channel 4 | Session Start | Local Time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Drivers Press Conference | Thursday | 11.00 | |||
| Practice 1 | Friday | 09.15 | 09.25 | 09.30 | 16.30 |
| Practice 2 | Friday | 13.15 | 13.10 | 13.30 | 20.30 |
| Practice 3 | Saturday | 10.45 | 10.55 | 11.00 | 18.00 |
| Qualifying | Saturday | 13.00 | 14.00 | 14:00 | 21.00 |
| Race | Sunday | 11.30 | 12.00 | 13.10 | 20:10 |
Circuit
When was the track built?
The Marina Bay Circuit arrived on the scene in 2008. A street track with the city's famous skyline as its spectacular backdrop, the initial circuit plan by Herman Tilke was refined by KBR Inc, while the event has quickly established itself as one of the standouts on the F1 calendar.
When was its first Grand Prix?
In 2008, Singapore had the honour of hosting the first night-time race in F1 history. The Grand Prix – the 15th round of that season – proved a huge hit with the teams and drivers, while Renault’s Fernando Alonso claimed a controversial victory.
What’s the circuit like?
The 5.073km Marina Bay Circuit is one of the most physically demanding on the calendar, its bumpy street surface coupled with humid conditions giving the drivers plenty to think about. With 23 corners, they are working the wheel a lot, too, around the high-speed lap – the physical stress causing them to lose as much as 3kg over the course of a race. The circuit also boasts some of the most unique features of any track on the F1 calendar, including Turn 18, which actually sees the drivers pass underneath a grandstand.
Changes for 2018
Live Timing
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html
Lap times, PU component use, technical reports and Stewards' decisions for the weekend will appear here:
https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-c...
Tyres
For 2018 Pirelli will bring to Marina Bay three tyres from the softer end of their ‘rainbow’ of available colours.
These are the yellow-striped Soft, purple-striped Ultrasoft and new-for-2018 pink-striped Hypersoft compounds. This combination has not previously been seen at any race this season; the Hypersofts have been used only in Monaco and Canada.
Weather (looking wet)
http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Singapore/S...
2017 Quailfying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSkMBM3P7i8
Pole Lap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhM_04gQQkk
Race Highlights A night race in the rain, what could possibly go wrong...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAOMOmsqpUY
The 2017 race: Lewis thanks his lucky stars
Singapore may have been celebrating its 10th F1 birthday, but Lewis Hamilton decided he would keep most of the presents for himself.
The 33-year-old Englishman claimed his third Marina Bay Street Circuit victory, his seventh of 2017 and the 60th of his Formula 1 career to move 28 points ahead of championship rival Sebastian Vettel.
Vettel’s Ferrari had started from pole position but the German’s race was over within a few hundred metres. As Red Bull’s Max Verstappen tried to force his way between Vettel and his Ferrari team-mate Kimi Räikkönen the Dutch driver found himself with nowhere to go: he and Räikkönen were out instantly, while Vettel spun into retirement just seconds later.
Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth, Hamilton brought his Mercedes through from the third row to take the race lead which would be his until the end of a race shortened to 58 laps.
Before the race Hamilton had said he needed a miracle and he was quick to acknowledge his good fortune. “God blessed me today for sure,” said the 32-year-old Briton. “I capitalised on the incident – who would ever have known that would happen?”
Daniel Ricciardo’s Red Bull gave chase but could never get within striking distance, leaving the Australian to come home second for the third year in a row at Marina Bay. “I can’t win the bloody thing!” said Ricciardo in jest, “But I’m trying!”
Third, rounding off a superb day for Mercedes, was Valtteri Bottas, the Finn helping propel Mercedes into a lead of more than 100 points from Ferrari in the constructors’ standings as the three-pointed star continued its relentless pursuit of a fourth consecutive double title success.
Hamilton was not the only driver to profit from the early chaos: Carlos Sainz, in his last year with Toro Rosso, took his best-ever finish in fourth place ahead of Sergio Perez’s Force India, Jolyon Palmer, dropped by Renault for 2018 to make way for Sainz, achieved his best F1 result in sixth, and Stoffel Vandoorne’s McLaren was eighth to give the Belgian his own highest finish.
With the race ending at the two-hour limit after 58 of the scheduled 61 laps, only 12 cars finished, the lowest in Singapore’s first decade as a Grand Prix venue. Hamilton sweetened his day even further with a new lap record of 1 minute 45.008 seconds and summed it all up in one sentence.
“I needed it to rain,” he said, “and as soon as it began to rain I knew where I would finish.”
Edited by Deesee on Monday 10th September 12:00
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Ferrari and Vettel in particular really need to pull their socks up at this one in order to start clawing back the points their performance deserves.
Hamilton should at best be a theoretical 5th here behind the red and blue cars however does anyone know what’s happening with engine penalties yet?
Units used to date, Red bull have the freshest units (one race old) of the front runners.Hamilton should at best be a theoretical 5th here behind the red and blue cars however does anyone know what’s happening with engine penalties yet?
https://maxf1.net/en/2018-f1-power-unit-elements-u...
High downforce circuit for Mercedes, I can't wait to see Red Bull think they can get away with on the rear wing!!!!
Dani Ric/Max for me (if clean), can see Merc pulling an unexpected 2 stop (assuming minimal safety car activity), to keep the scuderia on there toes.
Gaz. said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Has there ever been a genuinely good race at Singapore?
Crashes, and the odd bit of cheating but I'm struggling to recall one? I always think it's an unattractive thing to view as well though a customer has been a couple of times and apparently it's a cracking venue to visit.
It looks great during the day, lots of trees & parks. FP1 and F2 are quite something during daylight.Crashes, and the odd bit of cheating but I'm struggling to recall one? I always think it's an unattractive thing to view as well though a customer has been a couple of times and apparently it's a cracking venue to visit.
2008 was good, even before we knew of the cheating, 2009 was good, 2010 was good, 2012 was ok, Vettel was on fire in 2013, 2017 was good. Can't remember 2011, 2014, 2015 or 2016 but if they're on this week I'll rewatch them.
Jabbah said:
Deesee said:
... can see Merc pulling an unexpected 2 stop (assuming minimal safety car activity), to keep the scuderia on there toes.
Looking at the tyre choices I'd have thought Ferrari the most likely to be going for a 2 stop. I think Merc will be hoping the SC gods look kindly on them.The Moose said:
It looks like rain is possible (but unlikely) for quali, but not happening on the Sunday. Am I missing something?!
When I typed it was rain, now I have no idea (without looking again)..And forgive my lack of global knowledge but does it tend to rain at night/day at that point of the world at that time of year!? I have no idea, help pls??
The Moose said:
Deesee said:
The Moose said:
It looks like rain is possible (but unlikely) for quali, but not happening on the Sunday. Am I missing something?!
When I typed it was rain, now I have no idea (without looking again)..And forgive my lack of global knowledge but does it tend to rain at night/day at that point of the world at that time of year!? I have no idea, help pls??
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Made up by me
hairyben said:
Thanks for the race thread header, but
I actually pinched that from the FIA press pack so one million conspiracy theory’s confirmed Deesee said:
Vettel’s Ferrari had started from pole position but the German’s race was over within a few hundred metres. As Red Bull’s Max Verstappen tried to force his way between Vettel and his Ferrari team-mate Kimi Räikkönen the Dutch driver found himself with nowhere to go: he and Räikkönen were out instantly, while Vettel spun into retirement just seconds later.
Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth, Hamilton brought his Mercedes through from the third row to take the race lead which would be his until the end of a race shortened to 58 laps.
who wrote that, vettels mum?Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth, Hamilton brought his Mercedes through from the third row to take the race lead which would be his until the end of a race shortened to 58 laps.
cb1965 said:
Derek Smith said:
Deesee said:
hairyben said:
Thanks for the race thread header, but
I actually pinched that from the FIA press pack so one million conspiracy theory’s confirmed Deesee said:
Vettel’s Ferrari had started from pole position but the German’s race was over within a few hundred metres. As Red Bull’s Max Verstappen tried to force his way between Vettel and his Ferrari team-mate Kimi Räikkönen the Dutch driver found himself with nowhere to go: he and Räikkönen were out instantly, while Vettel spun into retirement just seconds later.
Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth, Hamilton brought his Mercedes through from the third row to take the race lead which would be his until the end of a race shortened to 58 laps.
who wrote that, vettels mum?Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth, Hamilton brought his Mercedes through from the third row to take the race lead which would be his until the end of a race shortened to 58 laps.
When I posted the YT links, I must have watched the race restart, a dozen or so times in between the
's Vettel had the wrong line in to the corner, makes a race ending contact for two other drivers, then more impressively manages to bin it after slipping on his own cars fluids, whist Lewis slips through the first corner, and twinkle toes around Vettel with no issues, then Vettel is reversing up the track with a damaged car, he does not stop it keeps going backwards. Loon..Derek Smith said:
Jabbah said:
Deesee said:
Ferrari have had the rug pulled from under their feet literally, the floor they have been running previously has been pulled (I have been led to believe)
Now that would be interesting. Any further news on that? Is this something that happened after Monza?It was suggested that there was little advantage from it yet every little bit counts.
To be honest the fia could have imposed sanctions, fine or points deductions but decided not too, they are trying to get this championship decided on the track.
Hass should have registered the out of regs floor before the race.
Derek Smith said:
Hungrymc said:
Think I'm with Dr Z's thinking here (not the crazy McLaren stuff :-) ). Last year, the Ferrari looked an easier race car, good pace, less affected by dirty air, gentle on tyres.. all while being similar pace to the Merc. This year, I'd say Ferrari have more of an outright pace advantage (far from huge) but I'm not sure they hold the other benefits - in fact, I was amazed at how comfortable Lewis was following Kimi closely last time out. Of course they were set up differently and maybe the Merc was less optimised for the straights which really helped it follow through the corners.
I'm finding it really hard to predict Singapore this year as the car's characteristics look different to last year to me.
LH lost a lot of time through the Parabolica. It was noticeable on the timing screens. On occasion the Ferrari gained half a second, although I think that might have been LH looking after his tyres. When he was trying he lost a couple of tenths. I'm finding it really hard to predict Singapore this year as the car's characteristics look different to last year to me.
Edited by Hungrymc on Tuesday 11th September 14:23
Edited by Hungrymc on Tuesday 11th September 14:23
Singapore a little different in terms of strategy...
Let the Ferrari burn its tyres/fuel out.
Derek Smith said:
Stats alone cannot be depended on to show which car was fastest. Strategy is second only to the driver.
Anyone know if the FIA is pursuing Merc's wobbly bits? Nice of Ferrari not to mention it, except in a press release it appears.
From my op in the Italian gp thread...Anyone know if the FIA is pursuing Merc's wobbly bits? Nice of Ferrari not to mention it, except in a press release it appears.
I’d say they are all at it.
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