Renault Brakegate

Renault Brakegate

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vaud

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Given the potential implications, I thought this worthy of a new thread:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/renault-facing-suspe...
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/48019/brake-gate-th...

Will be fascinating to see how this plays out, and how Racing Point figured it out (watching the drivers, whistleblower, etc)

vaud

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I thought Jean-Dominique Senard was pro-F1.

vaud

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DaveTheRave87 said:
I can't see how it's an issue. Location dependant engine/hybrid maps have been around for a few years.
Brakes are different:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/146555/renault-p...

"Article 11.1.3 of F1's Technical Regulations states: "Any powered device, other than the system referred to in Article 11.9, which is capable of altering the configuration or affecting the performance of any part of the brake system is forbidden."

The exception referred to in Article 11.9 is that the pressure modulation for the rear brake-by-wire system can be 'provided by a powered control system.'

The references to the Sporting Regulations and International Sporting Code could relate to the ban on driver aids in F1.

Article 27.1 of F1's Sporting Regulations states: "The driver must drive the car alone and unaided.""

vaud

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Doink said:
red_slr said:
I thought all the teams had something like this these days? I wonder if its even possible to prove to what degree its automated also..
Isn't harvesting and deployment controlled by gps or that other track position thingy method?
Brakes are the exception to automation?

vaud

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Friday 18th October 2019
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TheDeuce said:
My first thought is why have they done this? - if in fact they have done.

It would seem a huge risk to take for a car they probably already suspected wouldn't be as competitive as hoped this season. On the other hand, the benefits of the braking aid clearly aren't huge as they're not exactly enjoying new levels of success this season. Seems like it would be a big risk to take for minimal reward.

The risk to the driver's reputation is also significant surely? I don't see how they could claim not to notice such a system...
Drivers will get likely get immunity from the FIA if they co-operate.

vaud

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Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Seems a reasonable verdict though I need to re-read the detail. Slap on wrist rather than McLaren-Gate.