F1 Sucks These Days
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So I’ve just watched the 1986 Australian GP on YouTube and it was a brilliant watch. Truly was the Golden years. It also really puts modern F1 into perspective.
All we talk about these days is tyre wear and which compound is best. Funnily enough I’ve just sat through 2 hours of Murray Walker and James Hunt discussing the pros and cons of the B compound against the C compound and how important it is to preserve the tyres (great to hear their voices though). This all concludes with two pretty high profile tyre blow outs.
The second reason F1 sucks these days is the fact only 2, maybe 3 teams could win a race, with the likes of Williams basically not worth being there. 1986 was much better. Williams and McLaren dominating with a couple of Lotus wins. And it was brilliant that in Adelaide only 2 cars finished on the leading lap.
And another thing: the fact that cars these days have different engine modes is ridiculous. This means most of the race they aren’t even going flat out. The Turbo era was far better. When Walker and Hunt weren’t talking about tyre wear, they were talking about fuel usage and boost setting.
Finally F1 these days is too commercialised. It’s all about the money. Not like back in the 80’s when it was far more ethical. I much prefer the tobacco sponsorship pretty much everywhere you look.
Excuse my sarcasm. It was a brilliant race but it really shows just how rose tinted some people’s goggles are.
All we talk about these days is tyre wear and which compound is best. Funnily enough I’ve just sat through 2 hours of Murray Walker and James Hunt discussing the pros and cons of the B compound against the C compound and how important it is to preserve the tyres (great to hear their voices though). This all concludes with two pretty high profile tyre blow outs.
The second reason F1 sucks these days is the fact only 2, maybe 3 teams could win a race, with the likes of Williams basically not worth being there. 1986 was much better. Williams and McLaren dominating with a couple of Lotus wins. And it was brilliant that in Adelaide only 2 cars finished on the leading lap.
And another thing: the fact that cars these days have different engine modes is ridiculous. This means most of the race they aren’t even going flat out. The Turbo era was far better. When Walker and Hunt weren’t talking about tyre wear, they were talking about fuel usage and boost setting.
Finally F1 these days is too commercialised. It’s all about the money. Not like back in the 80’s when it was far more ethical. I much prefer the tobacco sponsorship pretty much everywhere you look.
Excuse my sarcasm. It was a brilliant race but it really shows just how rose tinted some people’s goggles are.
StevieBee said:
It's exceptionally easy to pick races from any era and determine it was much better 'back then' but determining if this is fact is impossible. It's entirely subjective because it's not about things being better or worse - just different.
Saying F1 sucks these days really doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I can't think of an era when the cars and teams were as closely matched as they are at the moment. A recently as the Ferrari/ Schumacher period, races would be won by margins often measured in laps. You might not like the current F1 and that's fine - it's not for everyone - but suck?....nope.
Did you actually read my original post?Saying F1 sucks these days really doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I can't think of an era when the cars and teams were as closely matched as they are at the moment. A recently as the Ferrari/ Schumacher period, races would be won by margins often measured in laps. You might not like the current F1 and that's fine - it's not for everyone - but suck?....nope.
Don’t dismiss tv coverage because it’s not real life. Even if you’re lucky enough to attend a GP (which many people can’t afford) the vast majority of races will be viewed on TV.
I agree attending a motor race in person is far better than watching on TV as the sounds and smells are such a big part of it. But as far as F1 is concerned, I’ve actually only attended one GP and that was in 2001 (despite many discussions about Spa/Monza) and I and far from the minority.
I agree attending a motor race in person is far better than watching on TV as the sounds and smells are such a big part of it. But as far as F1 is concerned, I’ve actually only attended one GP and that was in 2001 (despite many discussions about Spa/Monza) and I and far from the minority.
REALIST123 said:
It might not have been boring but it wasn’t good. Unless you’d think a football match which ended with half the players injured would be OK too?
Maybe you do.
Of course I don’t, but your analogy doesn’t work. There’s a bit of difference between enjoying actual physical harm and enjoying a race where multiple cars failed to finish. However, as has just been mentioned, good reliability is a relatively new thing in motorsport terms. For the record I didn’t enjoy the race because of the poor reliability. There were plenty of battles going on despite that and these weren’t just attributable to the SC periods.Maybe you do.
LukeBrown66 said:
I think it says it all that all I did was watch the first few laps, one car roared away from the field, that was enough for me to abandon.
And Croft does not help at all it has to be said. He makes F1 far worse to watch live I am sorry to say.
Because I’m the old days it would never happen that one car would immediately pull away from the rest of the field.And Croft does not help at all it has to be said. He makes F1 far worse to watch live I am sorry to say.
LukeBrown66 said:
I guess like many older fans, modern f1 just does not do it for me.
It should. the cars are powerful, fast etc. But I dont know what it is, they look to easy to drive, soo much reliance on aero, the tracks are fairly tame and uninteresting.
I simply think you can grow out of liking something, that's all.
I had other things to do that were more interesting it's that basic and years ago that would not be the case. So I guess as i say you just move away from it.
That’s probably the most honest post on this thread yet.It should. the cars are powerful, fast etc. But I dont know what it is, they look to easy to drive, soo much reliance on aero, the tracks are fairly tame and uninteresting.
I simply think you can grow out of liking something, that's all.
I had other things to do that were more interesting it's that basic and years ago that would not be the case. So I guess as i say you just move away from it.
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