Official 2020 Austrian & Styrian Grand Prix Thread *Spoilers
Discussion
Finally, an actual race to watch!
Drivers will be rusty, cars untested but we get to watch them all get up to speed on a great circuit, the Red Bull Ring. Expect lots of slip-streaming, overtaking and some unusual results.
Hoping for a strong (ie not last) result from Williams.
F1 is back!
Date(s): Friday 3 July 2020 – Sunday 5 July 2020
UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)
All sessions are live on Sky F1; currently only highlights are scheduled to be shown on Channel 4
Live timing for all sessions available here:
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html
Lap times, PU component use, technical reports and Stewards' decisions for the weekend will appear here:
https://www.fia.com/championship/events/fia-formul...
Weather forecast:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2766824
Tyre Choices:
TBC
2019 Qualifying Result:
2019 Race Result:
2019 race highlights:
https://youtu.be/cV0G1zN8kJU
Red Bull's Max Verstappen passed Charles Leclerc with two laps remaining to win a thrilling Austrian Grand Prix. The win was only confirmed three hours after the race finished following an investigation into whether Verstappen unfairly ran Leclerc off the track.
Ferrari's Leclerc had seemed in control of the race after Verstappen made a bad start to drop from second to seventh, but Red Bull pitted Verstappen 10 laps later than Leclerc and Verstappen fought up from fourth to take the win.
It was a sensational drive from Verstappen, making superb use of fresher tyres than the cars in front of him, but the move with which he took the lead was controversial.
Drivers will be rusty, cars untested but we get to watch them all get up to speed on a great circuit, the Red Bull Ring. Expect lots of slip-streaming, overtaking and some unusual results.
Hoping for a strong (ie not last) result from Williams.
F1 is back!
Date(s): Friday 3 July 2020 – Sunday 5 July 2020
UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)
All sessions are live on Sky F1; currently only highlights are scheduled to be shown on Channel 4
Live timing for all sessions available here:
https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html
Lap times, PU component use, technical reports and Stewards' decisions for the weekend will appear here:
https://www.fia.com/championship/events/fia-formul...
Weather forecast:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2766824
Tyre Choices:
TBC
2019 Qualifying Result:
2019 Race Result:
2019 race highlights:
https://youtu.be/cV0G1zN8kJU
Red Bull's Max Verstappen passed Charles Leclerc with two laps remaining to win a thrilling Austrian Grand Prix. The win was only confirmed three hours after the race finished following an investigation into whether Verstappen unfairly ran Leclerc off the track.
Ferrari's Leclerc had seemed in control of the race after Verstappen made a bad start to drop from second to seventh, but Red Bull pitted Verstappen 10 laps later than Leclerc and Verstappen fought up from fourth to take the win.
It was a sensational drive from Verstappen, making superb use of fresher tyres than the cars in front of him, but the move with which he took the lead was controversial.
TheDeuce said:
Thanks for the post - indeed nice to have a race to speculate about again!
The race is on my wife's birthday so I'll have to do something to make it special.. maybe some champagne to keep her quiet whilst I watch
There's going to be A LOT of sport in the late summer, to best manage expectations now....The race is on my wife's birthday so I'll have to do something to make it special.. maybe some champagne to keep her quiet whilst I watch
My Top 3:
Verstappen
Hamilton
Albon
(Red Bull circuit)
TwentyFive said:
I don't expect it to be much of an issue. The IndyCar race at Texas had all the hallmarks to be a disaster given the type of Oval that Texas is, plus the hot temps they had there made it very slick. Despite only 1 hour of practice and 2 laps of qualifying, the whole thing went without any major drama. The only big error was Sato crashing in qualifying and missing the race due to the one day schedule leaving no time to fix the car.
The F1 guys will have had a total of 4 hours of practice by the time they get to Qualifying. They will be comfortable on the limit long before Q1 starts.
On the note of Texas IndyCar, I'm surprised that F1 hasn't shortened the schedule and kept it at 3 days. With no paying customers, I would have thought that 2 days would have been fine, and less risk for everyone.The F1 guys will have had a total of 4 hours of practice by the time they get to Qualifying. They will be comfortable on the limit long before Q1 starts.
I think since Monaco FP3 in 2018 Max has been pretty much exemplary- he's certainly not a knucklehead as some others have said. He's my choice for the win on Sunday and I think I good value bet for the championship.
I'm interested which way Vettel's season will go. I've read a few theories that he'll relax and have a final swing before leaving, but sport doesn't work that way with weakness. I think Leclerc will take him apart, would not be surprised if it ends like Prost in 1991.
I'm interested which way Vettel's season will go. I've read a few theories that he'll relax and have a final swing before leaving, but sport doesn't work that way with weakness. I think Leclerc will take him apart, would not be surprised if it ends like Prost in 1991.
Derek Smith said:
The problem for Albon is that not only does he have to put pressure on Verstappen, but the team as well. They have too much invested in Verstappen to see him beaten by one of their own.
On the other hand, most other drivers have to beat their teammate (apart from Stroll....). Albon just needs to get close, in a Bottas/Hamilton way, and the team will be happy.Personally, I think he'll do OK, he's made of the right stuff.
Well I really enjoyed the race, Albon was robbed, I do think he would have won on that strategy, but all credit to Bottas, a 10/10 drive. Mature drive from Leclerc, Vettel heading for the exit early if he carries on with that level of performance I think. Very impressed with Norris, I'm revising my opinion up on him a bit.
Do we want another thread for next weekend, or are we happy to carry this one on?
Do we want another thread for next weekend, or are we happy to carry this one on?
N0ddie said:
I don't think Albon was robbed at all. On lap 1 Hamilton and Albon had a very similar exchange however Hamilton was on the outside. On the exit Hamilton knew the it wasn't gonna work (There'd be contact) so bailed on the manouvre.
However, roles reversed the younger more naive Albon didn't see what was happening and the crash was the result.
Albon is no pushover. Credit to him for making a bold move on Lewis using his fresher softs - Lewis hit his rear tyre and took a penalty. Looked very clumsy by Lewis (and a poor weekend for him in general). If Albon can get a bit nearer Max in qualifying, he's got the attitude and race pace to take a few wins this year.However, roles reversed the younger more naive Albon didn't see what was happening and the crash was the result.
TheDeuce said:
Thinking further about it.. I think Mercedes probably just wanted to run out the race the safest way possible, which they calculated they could do without pitting (which a risk in itself). They might have also not calculated that Albon was as able or willing to go for the pass as he proved to be! A lesson learned for the future perhaps.. but I don't think they made any bad calls yesterday - without the benefit of hindsight their decision to not pit is understandable.
Merc are typically very passive with strategy, this was another example of that. They were lucky it didn't cost them Bottas' winJonChalk said:
Deesee said:
JonChalk said:
Who's setting up the Steyrian GP thread?
... looks like u .. 
I’ll set a new one up for Hungary though, no problems
Derek Smith said:
TheDeuce said:
DanielSan said:
I can already see it now, bolt a whole s
t load of parts onto the car, wonder why the setup/balance is all to cock and have no idea why because they're replaced so many bits in one go.
Given that their CEO has today contradicted what binotto said yesterday I do have to wonder how ready these upgrades are. And yes, change one thing at once, review and then move on.. t load of parts onto the car, wonder why the setup/balance is all to cock and have no idea why because they're replaced so many bits in one go. What does it matter anyway though? The big roadblock for Ferrari is clearly power, and that's the one thing they can't do anything about this year. I suppose technically a near perfect aero solution could lead to a somewhat underpowered car being competitive but... Are Ferrari that hot on aero? They don't seem to have been since we entered an aero era of the sport.
For once Ferrari being out of contention won't mean no good racing at the top at least - there are plenty of teams in that mix. Two years of Ferrari floundering, and then we enter a budget limited ground effect era. That probably won't suit them either
I think if you have upgrades to use, you should use them in the second double header weekend- it's a brilliant back to back test if nothing else, and with testing so limited its a no brainer to bring them forward.
MiniMan64 said:
Why does the second race need a different name? Is it a legal thing?
What second names are the other double headers getting? Are we getting a British and an English GP?
I think it's to avoid confusion- ie who won the British GP in 2020? Which one? etc.What second names are the other double headers getting? Are we getting a British and an English GP?
The 2nd British GP is called the 70th Anniversary GP. I presume 70 years of GP racing?
angrymoby said:
Will O. Bey jr said:
And in English please?
it was.maybe 'tamburello' will help you figure it out
Edited by angrymoby on Sunday 12th July 22:11
Lewis is obviously a great driver, but his relative lack of competition and his 2014-on car advantage does mean his record is better than his talent.
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