2021 F1 cars thread

[Piginapoke]

Hi all. We're coming into the new car season and I thought we could use a thread for the cars when they appear. Most will be similar to last year, but McLaren, Ferrari and Aston Martin all seem to be saying that there will be plenty new to look at.

Here's the team launch dates as announced so far:

[Piginapoke]

Tazar said:

We’re coming into a new season with so many suggestions as to how things may be changed. Salaries come into discussion so why don’t we have a maximum salary for a F1 driver from his or her team including sponsors deals and then they can make up their salary from other championship races, ie. Indy, Le Mans, BYCV, etc.
Graham Hill and Jim Clarke had to, so why not Lewis ?

Thanks Tazar, although we're aiming for a slightly anorak/nerdy 2021 new car discussion here

[Piginapoke]

AJB88 said:

Reckon a new livery?

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Don’t think so, same papaya orange with maybe a few more sponsors.

Expecting a whole new back end though.

[Piginapoke]

Sandpit Steve said:

Piginapoke said:

Don’t think so, same papaya orange with maybe a few more sponsors.

Expecting a whole new back end though.

A back end that looks remarkably similar to last year’s Mercedes, by any chance?

They apparently spent tens of millions on that horizontal rear suspension last year, I’d be amazed if McLaren, Williams and Racing Point don’t all have a version of it on the ‘21 car.

Will be too early for Williams- still using it's own (outdated) gearbox in 2021. Aston and McLaren's rears will be near identical to last year's Merc I should imagine.

Edited by Piginapoke on Sunday 14th February 12:10

[Piginapoke]

30 mins in to the McLaren launch and no sign of the car. Just mindless crap

[Piginapoke]

Str6mik said:

Did anyone else watch the McLaren car launch? Was it just me picking up a bit of needle between lando and Danny ric?

It’s all a bit awkward, but I’m not seeing any needle

[Piginapoke]

And we're off with 2021

[Piginapoke]

TheDeuce said:

carl_w said:

TheDeuce said:

Best view. Looks to be a good job of packaging the Merc hardware.

It is a shame that they have to have the massive floor on the ground plane and can't make the floor the same size as the body.

I'm certain the aerodynamicists really love having the big as possible floor

I know what you mean though. Racing cars used to look a lot prettier than they do now.

Thank John Bernard and the MP4/1 coke bottle effect which started the trend. More space=more airflow= lower pressure at the diffuser= more downforce

[Piginapoke]

Good review of the new McLaren from Mark Priestley

https://youtu.be/Fwo-bRyTPZc

[Piginapoke]

Aston Martin has confirmed plans to unveil its new Formula 1 car on 3 March.

[Piginapoke]

I like the Alfa- something new going on with its nose I think. Also thinner than last year's car.

[Piginapoke]

ajprice said:

RB16B https://www.racefans.net/2021/02/23/first-pictures...



No special testing camo livery. 100% less Aston Martin logos

I can literally see no changes at all

[Piginapoke]

ajprice said:

RB16B https://www.racefans.net/2021/02/23/first-pictures...



No special testing camo livery. 100% less Aston Martin logos

Good review by Mark Priestley:https://youtu.be/jfHRuwHWEJs

New gearbox, engine, front aero. Bigger changes than we thought.

[Piginapoke]

Like a fab lolly?

[Piginapoke]

mw88 said:

Not a bad looking machine.

Nice livery, but that airbox behind the drivers head is huge! I guess they have moved cooling from the side pods up to the airbox, like Mercedes has done for a while

Edited by Piginapoke on Tuesday 2nd March 20:51

Edited by Piginapoke on Tuesday 2nd March 20:52

[Piginapoke]

jsf said:

resolve10 said:

Livery looks really smart. I like how they always manage to freshen it up a little without losing the identity of previous designs.

Anyone know what the two bulges are in the engine shroud? Looks unusual.

Changes made to the PU require it, i suspect it's to give clearance to a change in exhaust routing and turbine design.

I think it's just because they have shrink wrapped the rear end.

[Piginapoke]

Commercial reality. Spending no money on 2021, taking pay drivers and betting the farm on 2022.

[Piginapoke]

jsf said:

Piginapoke said:

Commercial reality. Spending no money on 2021, taking pay drivers and betting the farm on 2022.

Thats a bit harsh on Alonso and Ocon.

Sponsored by novichok

[Piginapoke]

JonChalk said:

DanielSan said:

Wonder how Mick Schumacher is going to feel racing under the Russian flag

I'm guessing Stalingrad is off the table

[Piginapoke]

KR158 said:

TheDeuce said:

LaurasOtherHalf said:

Damn that Williams is devoid of sponsors, what on earth is going wrong there?

Delayed reaction due to the results for the last several years? They did come last again last season...

Also, is it fair to say the team is simply a little less special/interesting now the family connection is gone?

I've been a Williams supporter since early '93, it's most definitely! a passion. The last few years have been extremely, incredibly painful, no question. Whilst I would have loved the family to have retained control, fighting their way back to the front, I'll just be happy to see them head back to the sharp end by any genuinely competitive means neccessary. It won't be "quite" the same, not as special. But if they're heading back to the front, I'll take it!

I don't think its too much to worry about. Williams are now backed by an investment firm, so have resources to fall back on even without sponsors. It's all about 2022, if the team could push the fast forward button for this season, it would. I'd expect more sponsors (and a better car) next year.

But that paint job is minging.