Drive to Survive Season 3

[DanielSan]

Release date has been confirmed for 19th March. It should be a good one just for the Vettel/Ferrari situation. Small teaser has been released today, trailer should be in the next week or so.

https://youtu.be/DlBKMaN4jEw

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There's apparently a fair bit of behind the scenes stuff at the factory during the first lockdown.b

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jsf said:

He wasn't that bad considering his level of dosh being invested.

What struck me more is everyone in the team is terrified of him, which isnt really a healthy thing for a team like they have.

He is clearly a driving force, but not in the Zak Brown mold of encouragement, more a do it or you are toast merchant.

That's not exclusive to the F1 team either. I know someone who has to deal with once in a while and he seems to have a weird skill of being an intimidating presence but getting the best out of people. He definitely isn't shy about binning people off if he needs to though

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Toto's long winded political version of saying no when asked if he thought Bottas could beat Hamilton was quite amusing.

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LaurasOtherHalf said:

I've met Horner, I like him. I won't elaborate much more than that but he's my type of manager. Toto, I like him but I can't help thinking he comes across a little strange in these. He certainly minces about the place doesn't he?!

I agree this series missed so much but I do think there's something to do with Hamilton and his image that means he's not included much in it.

Their fixation with Haas and Ricciardo spoil it a bit-no idea why unless it's the opposite of Hamilton and they simply get good access there.

By the way, on attracting the casual or new viewer I've lost count of the amount of people I know who have gotten back into F1 simply down to DTS.

I think Toto is the Jurgen Klopp of F1, the nice act is what everyone sees because they're winning, the moment things start going south he'll change very quickly.

Ricciardo and Haas had the right idea from series 1 in giving Netflix as much access as they wanted, and it's paid off with the fact they're still keen to follow their stories in series 2 and 3 also. It's boosted both parties profiles to the casual/none F1 fans

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honda_exige said:

I wonder if the new Williams owners changed the decision about them having so much access to the team? All series there's been just a few quick talking head bits from Claire Williams and nothing else.

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cgt2 said:

It was explicitly stated by LS Snr that they wanted Vettel's experience to 'train' Lance in the programme. That is the statement that struck me as completely out of touch (if true). From a team point of view they had a guy last year who won a race from dead last, I can't see Vettel doing that just as I can't see Kimi doing that as he did in 2005. And they are undoubtedly paying many multiples of what they paid Perez just by the fact of SV being 4x champ. Doesn't seem like a shrewd move but lets see...

Stroll is building Aston Martin's brand by putting their name on an F1 team, part of that brand building is getting a 4x WC to drive the car. Vettel will always be infinitely more marketable to F1 fans around the world than Perez will be and infinitely more marketable to a car company purely because he's a 4x WC.
There's no way Stroll isn't serious about the F1 team or they wouldn't have had massive updates to the factory even before the Aston deal was announced, but he's also very serious about turning Aston into something a lot bigger than they are currently. I hope he achieves success with both to be honest. It would be nice to see the old Jordan/FI team being successful more consistently.

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cgt2 said:

DanielSan said:

Stroll is building Aston Martin's brand by putting their name on an F1 team, part of that brand building is getting a 4x WC to drive the car. Vettel will always be infinitely more marketable to F1 fans around the world than Perez will be and infinitely more marketable to a car company purely because he's a 4x WC.
There's no way Stroll isn't serious about the F1 team or they wouldn't have had massive updates to the factory even before the Aston deal was announced, but he's also very serious about turning Aston into something a lot bigger than they are currently. I hope he achieves success with both to be honest. It would be nice to see the old Jordan/FI team being successful more consistently.

I hope you're right but every time I see the car I'm reminded of Jaguar. Apart from the colour, the MO was pretty much identical with Ford coming in, huge aspirations, world champs within three years etc etc etc. We all know what happened there and F1 is vastly more complicated and expensive now.

They've always been consistently the most efficient when it comes to performance per $/£ in the paddock, aslong as that efficency remains but with the freedom to expand on developments they're in the perfect place especially with the 'cost cap' that's now in place.

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CustardOnChips said:

Blib said:

I've watched most of episode 1. Is it correct that Williams, Russel & Grosjean's crash don't feature?

Not much on Williams and Russell. But there is most of an episode dedicated to the crash. The episode is called Man on Fire.

Rumour in a few places now is that Williams didn't want to be involved this year.

Grosjean's crash doesn't get any easier to watch, it does show how close the medic really was getting to the fire to try and help Grosjean out of the car. The heat must've been ridiculous!

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The Fella with access to Claire Williams said:

rider73 said:

Clair Williams husband complaining about lack of Netflix content in this season - while also admitting they had not given them access and also had their own TV crew documenting the season - cake, eat it...........

https://www.grandprix.com/news/claire-williams-hus...

Harris insisted it is no excuse for Netflix to argue that insufficient access was granted to the film crew in the crucial moments of last year's team sale.

"It's easy to say there wasn't access granted. No, access wasn't granted to any film crew other than Williams' own to the very private moments when Claire had to tell the team that the family were having to sell and leave the sport they love and breathe for," he said.

"But an abundance of footage was made available by the team and all crews had access at all other times. What a shame it wasn't used."

I can't imagine why Netflix just didn't bother?

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RammyMP said:

Cedric Daniels said:

Just watched the Mercedes episode of Season 3 -

Broke my heart when Bottas returned to the staff quarters to realise loads of the staff had already left. I know it is probably down to creative editing by Netflix but it tugged on the heart string. Thought he came across very well in that episode, especially for me who only started watching F1 properly last season

I agree, he went up in my estimation. Other drivers went down after watching the series.

The Ferrari one was good, fair play to Seb for staying professional.

He always seems like a genuinely nice guy, and as much as he is a good F1 driver, and insanely fast on his day. Without Rosberg's very last minute retirement and being the only driver realistically available at that time, I can't think of a scenario that would get him into the Mercedes otherwise.