Porpoising, what if?
Discussion
I started the thread more as a who has the duty of care, it is the FIA's bat and ball when it comes to the rules, but if something bad does happen to a driver as a direct result of the effect, surely the FIA, Liberty and the local promoter would have to carry the can for allowing this known issue to continue.
geeks said:
Indeed you could see if from MV's onboard over the weekend but it's very little when compared to some of the others. They all have it, some more severe than others.
I did (and it could be complete bullst) that FRIC which was banned could have helped with this. Also Indycar were saying preseason that they know how to resolve this etc and were already offering advice to certain teams.
I would be tempted to take that with a pinch of salt, Indy cars don't make anywhere near as much down force as an F1 car, with Indy levels the F1 cars probably wouldn't even notice it.I did (and it could be complete bullst) that FRIC which was banned could have helped with this. Also Indycar were saying preseason that they know how to resolve this etc and were already offering advice to certain teams.
jimPH said:
Adrian W said:
jimPH said:
I think the merc fans will moan the entire season, but unfortunately, this looks like its going to be an RB walkover and max's second title.
Could be a whole new RB era.
What has your comment got to do with this thread Could be a whole new RB era.
Edited by Adrian W on Tuesday 14th June 12:46
Muzzer79 said:
Here’s what I can’t figure out;
After Abu Dhabi last year, Mercedes must have had a
“We owe you one”
From the FIA in return for dropping the whole ‘race-director-makes-up-rules-as-he-goes-along’ business.
Why aren’t they calling that in now? Maybe they are and this is the start of it…..
Maybe they already have and the car was much worse, but this isn’t about Mercedes as all of the cars do it to some extent, After Abu Dhabi last year, Mercedes must have had a
“We owe you one”
From the FIA in return for dropping the whole ‘race-director-makes-up-rules-as-he-goes-along’ business.
Why aren’t they calling that in now? Maybe they are and this is the start of it…..
NRS said:
It was always clear this would happen - even if they wanted to the FIA cannot change the rules at short notice without the teams agreeing, and RB would not have agreed. So the only thing that might happen was a limit on the amount of vertical bouncing. It showed why the RB fans saying Hamilton was putting it on was nonsense - there was a far more likely downside to Mercedes than to RB.
Surely that is changing the rules?paulguitar said:
jimPH said:
paulguitar said:
NRS said:
It showed why the RB fans saying Hamilton was putting it on was nonsense - there was a far more likely downside to Mercedes than to RB.
Agreed.There's an interview on Motorsport at the moment with Kevin Magnussen's physio who says that the porpoising is bad enough in some cases to possibly fracture spines. It's demonstrably most severe on the Mercedes and of the two, worse on Hamilton's car, due to the different floor he's been running. I think the usual little gang here who've accused Hamilton of milking this should take the opportunity to reflect and consider they have made themselves appear rather foolish.
I'm just pleased that action is being taken, even if it means Mercedes will be even more uncompetitive. The most important thing, which I am sure that nearly all of us agree on, is the health of the participants.
https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-even-if-we-went-...
Hamilton's going to need a crane to get out the car this time.
Yes, you're the ringloeader of the gang.
MarkwG said:
Teppic said:
wpa1975 said:
Horner at it again: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/motorsports/horner...
Reading between the lines - Red bull are dangerously close to, or have already exceeded, the cost cap and desperately want it increased so that they aren't disqualified at the end of the season.HustleRussell said:
I don't think Mercedes are mugs. I predicted at the start of the season that they would be a factor by the start of European leg of the season. Could they have played it very cool and rigidly executed a conservative strategy which avoids reliability problems and budget dramas?
If the rules get enforced rigidly it's not a bad strategy.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff