Porpoising, what if?

[Adrian W]

A driver gets seriously hurt or worse, who’s fault would it be ?

Obviously they can’t refuse to drive the things.

[Adrian W]

I started the thread more as a who has the duty of care, it is the FIA's bat and ball when it comes to the rules, but if something bad does happen to a driver as a direct result of the effect, surely the FIA, Liberty and the local promoter would have to carry the can for allowing this known issue to continue.

[Adrian W]

Lucas Ayde said:

Yeah - but Hamilton isn't winning. Heads need to roll at the FIA for this.

are you trying to make a point or just look a fool.

[Adrian W]

geeks said:

Indeed you could see if from MV's onboard over the weekend but it's very little when compared to some of the others. They all have it, some more severe than others.

I did (and it could be complete bullst) that FRIC which was banned could have helped with this. Also Indycar were saying preseason that they know how to resolve this etc and were already offering advice to certain teams.

I would be tempted to take that with a pinch of salt, Indy cars don't make anywhere near as much down force as an F1 car, with Indy levels the F1 cars probably wouldn't even notice it.

[Adrian W]

jimPH said:

I think the merc fans will moan the entire season, but unfortunately, this looks like its going to be an RB walkover and max's second title.

Could be a whole new RB era.

What has your comment got to do with this thread

Edited by Adrian W on Tuesday 14th June 12:46

[Adrian W]

jimPH said:

Adrian W said:

jimPH said:

I think the merc fans will moan the entire season, but unfortunately, this looks like its going to be an RB walkover and max's second title.

Could be a whole new RB era.

What has your comment got to do with this thread

Edited by Adrian W on Tuesday 14th June 12:46

You know full well what it means the discussion is clearly aimed at bringing the performance level down as opposed to bring up those who are struggling.

No, the discussion is what if a driver gets hurt who’s responsibility is it, try reading the first post, I’m assuming you can read

[Adrian W]

Muzzer79 said:

Here’s what I can’t figure out;

After Abu Dhabi last year, Mercedes must have had a

“We owe you one”

From the FIA in return for dropping the whole ‘race-director-makes-up-rules-as-he-goes-along’ business.

Why aren’t they calling that in now? Maybe they are and this is the start of it…..

Maybe they already have and the car was much worse, but this isn’t about Mercedes as all of the cars do it to some extent,

[Adrian W]

NRS said:

It was always clear this would happen - even if they wanted to the FIA cannot change the rules at short notice without the teams agreeing, and RB would not have agreed. So the only thing that might happen was a limit on the amount of vertical bouncing. It showed why the RB fans saying Hamilton was putting it on was nonsense - there was a far more likely downside to Mercedes than to RB.

Surely that is changing the rules?

[Adrian W]

I don't think I will be able to watch an interview with Horner this weekend, the smugness will be turned up to 11

[Adrian W]

paulguitar said:

jimPH said:

paulguitar said:

NRS said:

It showed why the RB fans saying Hamilton was putting it on was nonsense - there was a far more likely downside to Mercedes than to RB.

Agreed.

There's an interview on Motorsport at the moment with Kevin Magnussen's physio who says that the porpoising is bad enough in some cases to possibly fracture spines. It's demonstrably most severe on the Mercedes and of the two, worse on Hamilton's car, due to the different floor he's been running. I think the usual little gang here who've accused Hamilton of milking this should take the opportunity to reflect and consider they have made themselves appear rather foolish.

I'm just pleased that action is being taken, even if it means Mercedes will be even more uncompetitive. The most important thing, which I am sure that nearly all of us agree on, is the health of the participants.

The outcome is a massive egg smack bang on toto's forehead, running down his pumpernickel boxer shorts. Mainly because he thinks increasing the tide height won't solve the issue, so no doubt they'll be running lead springs this weekend to make a point.

https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-even-if-we-went-...

Hamilton's going to need a crane to get out the car this time.

'Tide height'?

Yes, you're the ringloeader of the gang.

I thought he was talking about the beach

[Adrian W]

MarkwG said:

Teppic said:

wpa1975 said:

Horner at it again: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/motorsports/horner...

Reading between the lines - Red bull are dangerously close to, or have already exceeded, the cost cap and desperately want it increased so that they aren't disqualified at the end of the season.

Interesting - I wonder if they were hoping for a Brawn style early sprint into the distance season strategy, leaving the opposition trying to catch up. That worked when you could through money at the problem...

If it was true would ge really say this in public?

[Adrian W]

HustleRussell said:

I don't think Mercedes are mugs. I predicted at the start of the season that they would be a factor by the start of European leg of the season. Could they have played it very cool and rigidly executed a conservative strategy which avoids reliability problems and budget dramas?

If the rules get enforced rigidly it's not a bad strategy.