Masi gone from F1

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SmoothCriminal said:

Good riddance.

My exact thoughts…

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SmoothCriminal said:

Good riddance.

My exact thoughts…

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PhilAsia said:

Muzzer79 said:

jm doc said:

Muzzer79 said:

jm doc said:

kambites said:

jm doc said:

Explain how he is a scapegoat? Are you saying the FIA told him to "fix" the AD race for Max to win? :

I wouldn't be surprised if he was told to to everything he could to make sure the race finished under green-flag conditions and/or that if there was a way to make the race close at the end to take it.

There was a way to do that within the rules. What he did was stop the race for everyone except Hamilton and Max, at the direct request of Horner and completely outwith the rules. I still think there should be a criminal investigation. It's happened in football at the very highest levels, Champions league finals with referees who have been bribed.

Whilst I agree that he has no place in the sport, let’s keep our feet on the ground……criminal investigation?

There’s absolutely no suggestion anywhere of anything other than incompetence on Masi’s part, potentially also weakness in respect of being influenced by competitors. Comparing it with corruption is false, with the information on hand.

To use your football analogy, he was a referee who called a penalty kick outrageously wrongly, after being influenced by a couple of players on the pitch. He was not a referee taking brown envelopes.

Some quite breathtaking assumptions in there.

This wasn't incompetence, he knew the rules intimately, he broke them. Just on betting alone, there were millions of pounds lost to innocent punters, (not me!), never mind the money spent by the the team attempting to win. Why would someone deliberately do that? Corruption cannot be ruled out and should be rooted out. As I said, it's happened before at the very highest levels of sport, why would F1 be immune?

There are several football analogies, none of which involve making a wrong judgement call which is the typical claim by Masi apologists. An example might be changing the rules towards the end of a game, deciding for instance to let the team that was losing have 12 men on the pitch for the last five minutes and the other team being reduced to eight.

This was an extreme event and should have been investigated by the appropriate authorities.

Breathtaking assumptions??

Show me the evidence of any corruption - Where is his motive, where is his method, where is his gain?

The fact is that he allowed himself to be influenced and made a huge mistake. There's nothing to suggest otherwise.

The incompetence was breathtaking, but talk of intentional result-rigging is tin-foil-hattery.

I do not think anyone can categorically state wtf Masi's motives were. But it should be clear to everyone that he certainly knew he was flouting the rules though, as he had vehemently defended them a year previously.

That there is always the clincher for me in terms of he was well acquainted with the rules and procedures when the safety car is in play. To defend his part on the AD fiasco and be satisfied with the outcome is about something else… our man became WDC*, we’ll take it anyway it happened. Or anyone but Lewis winning it yet again. Or for the show/Netflix. If it was for the show, IMO Lewis winning it at AD in the last race when 5 races earlier he appeared dead and buried championship wise… a brilliant drive where even Horner had accepted their challenge was over. It would still have been great for the show. Instead we have what we have… Max WDC*. Whatever anyone says, get over it. Move on. Masi’s role in Max’s WDC will always be controversial, remembered and brought up. If Masi was on point he’d still be there. He wasn’t and isn’t.

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Big Nanas said:

angrymoby said:

mat205125 said:

Masi deteriorated in 2021 to being close to a Premiership ref, with Wolfe and Horner being the stroppy primidones falling, pushing, shouting, and shoving, instead of respecting and behaving.

im sure most football referees would quite like to be separated from the players/ managers by being on another pitch & be only contactable via a comms that has an on/off button

stop making excuses for the man

But in a football match the game is effectively paused when that happens, and it's only the players that are arguing. The managers are no where near the referee. Masi had to deal with these two whilst trying to work what to do next - all whilst the laps were counting down.

What did he need to work out… Masi already knew what to do next, he’d done it before and made it clear he had to follow the rules.