Mondeo ST24 or Puma 1.7?

Mondeo ST24 or Puma 1.7?

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Gooly

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Hi guys,

Ran some quotes and found that a Mondeo ST24 (2.5l V6, 160BHP, 1350kg) is largely the same amount to insure as a 1.7 Puma (1.7l I4, 120BHP, 1000KG). Which would you rather have based on A) Purely on driving dynamics, and B) As an overall ownership package.

Some context; I'm an 18yr old student living out at uni, I occasionally (ie some weekends) do a 100 mile motorway trip to London, other than that it's town and country hooning. Currently have a MK5 Fiesta 1.25 which isn't a hugely different proposition to the Puma (I may just do a 1.7 swap into this, same ins price as a puma); that sits at 5kR PM doing 90leptons on the motorway, feels out of depth past 65, assuming the Puma is the same. However since trips are occasional I won't let this be a big factor.

Edited by Gooly on Tuesday 9th October 00:32

Gooly

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Cheapest RWD to insure would be an E36 318is (same as the 16/18 on isurance) which is £500 more than the above options. Would love a RWD and will go for one as soon as it's affordable, but for now this is it.

Can also get an 850 T5 for the same as the ST24. Really tempting...

Gooly

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davepoth said:
Puma is very buzzy on the motorway, and once it gets past the VVT kick in point it gets quite thirsty too, so my Puma owning friend who likes to go fast tells me.
Is that around 4000RPM? Assuming thats 80 in 5th? Current fiesta on the London M23/M25 trip will do 50MPG on a slow run and 33MPG on a not-so-slow run, well past 5000RPM in 5th.

Only real problem with a Puma would be after two MK5 Fiestas (Both of which had the same lovely gearchange/driving position/pedal feel/steering feel) it would just feel the same, only slightly better.

Gooly

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Anything mildly exciting with four or more seats that is insurable for me. These two happened to be the best candidates, the fact that they are both Fords which I have hankered over for a long time is a bonus for me.

Volvo 850 T5 and Vauxhall Omega V6s (bonus points as it's RWD) are also reasonable but still considerably more than either of the above.

Gooly

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Cougar just seems like a heavier uglier more impractical ST24; I understand they handle better (ST200 used Cougar subframes) but I don't think I'd bother tbh. My mum used to have a 2l zetec mondeo when I was (even)young(er) and I always used to lust after the Mondeo ST models because of that, so the ST24 still has that appeal to me. I was an odd child.

I'm going to go look at a black ST24 tomorrow, if it's clean I'll take it, if not I won't bother as it seems to be the only one within a distance I can be bothered to travel to.

If not, I'm going to look into getting a Puma, or failing that I may just 1.7 swap my Fiesta as it's a lovely wee thing and hasn't got any rust.

Gooly

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Papa Hotel said:
No.
It would be mechanically identical to a Puma, only with a slightly narrower track and a lighter body... don't really see the issue?