EU law stipulates Digital tyre pressure gauges

EU law stipulates Digital tyre pressure gauges

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SystemParanoia

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Ive had a search but cant find a thread about this..

"From today a new EU law will require battery-powered sensors to be fitted inside every tyre"

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2012-11-01/new-reg...

just saw this on the news..

will this actually help or just yet another expense.. especially as it will now be an MOT failure point eek

News said:
New regulations which come into force today, will compare how various tyres grip the road, and how noisy they are.

From today a new EU law will require battery-powered sensors to be fitted inside every tyre on every new model car.

The sensors, known as the Tyre Pressure Monitoring System, or TPMS, will become part of the annual MOT from January 2015, as in two years' time all new cars will have to have them.

At the last count there were more than 26 million cars on Britain's roads, meaning there are well over 100 million tyres on the tarmac at any one time.

However, it is thought that only 4% of people drive with all four tyres properly inflated.

Figures from the EU show that under-inflated tyres are a contributory factor in 9% of all fatal road accidents and 41% per cent of serious injury road accidents.

The figures also estimate that world-wide, 20 million litres of fuel are burnt unnecessarily each year through low tyre pressure, releasing two million tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere.

"The way it works is there's a sensor valve in each wheel that sends a low frequency signal to the car's electronic control unit. If the tyre pressure drops by more than about 20 per cent that's indicated by a symbol appearing on the dashboard."

– MIKE GARWOOD, NATIONAL TYRES
French car makers like Renault, Peugeot and Citroen have been fitting TPMS to some of their models for nearly 10 years, but to most people that warning light would be a bit of a mystery.

In a recent survey, half of drivers couldn't identify it at all and others guessed it meant anything from their engine overheating to their car approaching a cattle grid.

The new sensor will cost anything from £40 to £250 per tyre.

If you happen to suffer a blow out, the sensor could well be damaged and it will need replacing.

If the sensor's battery dies, it will need replacing.

And if you haven't got a spare tyre but want to use your car's puncture repair kit instead, the sealant can clog up the sensor so… it will need replacing.

And then there are the garages.

One independent tyre fitter, trading in Birmingham for 22 years, says the diagnostic equipment needed to implement the system has cost him a small fortune but warns that the expense for customers won't stop at simply buying the sensors.

"I've got to go round to each wheel one at a time getting the readings from the sensor then I have to program the sensor into the management system of the car and that's going to cost, depending on the vehicle, between £50 and £60 each car."

– DOUGLAS COCKS, TYRE FITTER
But the new law, a version of which has been in force in the USA for 12 years, is being welcomed by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders.

"There are two key benefits from this system. Firstly, your tyres will be safer if they are appropriately inflated and secondly you will be more fuel efficiency if they are appropriately inflated. So safety and fuel economy."

– PAUL EVERITT, SMMT
Of course for a few years yet TPMS will only be compulsory on new cars - but sooner or later they will pass into the second-hand market.

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KungFuPanda said:
Why does the ITV report state that it affects motorists from the Midlands? Surely it affects all motorists in the EU.
yeah, but Londoners can afford it lol hehe

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or just leave well enough alone! ffs.. why not create new laws on knitting, and sewing and weaving lentils etc instead frown

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jagracer said:
You can buy a very good after market kit for around £90, a mate of mine uses them for his trailer.
Umm.. if I drop several grand on a new(ish) car, and suffer the misfortune of having my sensors fail... I don't want this ugly thing looking back at me for £90


SystemParanoia

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ahh like that car tax bandings fiasco that devalued thousands of cars in a single swipe of the pen frown

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yes but the in tyre system allows the manufacturers to make more money from the fleet buyers and those insist on getting their dealer stamps

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Superhoop said:
How is this down to manufacturers? The legislation has been set by the EU
only said that as i thought the manufacturers would have a choice... now i realise they HAVE to use the crappy active system frown

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ive checked my tyre pressures every week for a year... they haven't changed at all!

if they absolutely HAD to meddle.. it would have made more sense to fit a system like the Original Hummer has, that can inflate and deflate its own tyres on the fly. legislate something that will actually change the game, instead of creating the possibility of needless bork frown



Hummer CTIS ( Central Tyre inflation system )

CTIS said:
Another function of the CTIS is to maintain pressure in the tires if there is a slow leak or puncture. In this case, the system controls inflation automatically based on the selected pressure the driver has set.
Edited by SystemParanoia on Thursday 1st November 22:33

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Throttle Body said:
Why not just leave them when they stop working? You could then just use an airline from time to time like the rest of us. Or am I missing something?
as of today.. MOT failure frown

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aw51 121565 said:
I presume the diagram is a schematic? Just that offset halfshafts and random pipes on the outside of the wheel aren't the future hehe .

Joking (honest smile ) apart, I can't help thinking that an ability to keep a deflating tyre inflated isn't good - what happens if it's something like a six inch nail burrowing its way through the cords (which would ordinarily mean speed-related ticking noises followed by a slow deflation and plenty of warning via shuddering etc culminating in a controlled stop in a safe place of one's choosing) leading to a catastrophic deflation at an inconvenient moment as the tyre instantaneously, errm, falls apart? frown

Not that I'm in favour of these 'digital tyre pressure sensors'... Oh no, Sir!!! We've managed to survive by making regular checks, after all wink . Another poster has mooted the "lowest common denominator" point around this law (the third such law, catering for the ignorant tiny minority while almost all of us can manage to behave ourselves 24/7/365/... , mentioned on here in the past 24 hours scratchchin...).
i have no problems with Portal axles becoming standard fitment to everything hehe

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well for all new cars anyway.

the system will be checked at MOT time, and if its not fitted, and integrated with the cars onboard systems, it will fail.

fun and games in 3 years time i think.

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ahh apologies, its 2015 ...

still pants though frown